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I would find it hard to buy a stock that cost more than my gun... Get rid of those cheap Rem 700s and spend the money to get a Winchester M70. Then you will have a rifle worth putting a McMillan on. INCOMING!!!
I saw a movie where only the military and the police had guns. It was called Schindler's List.
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Still looking for one that has knowledgeable employees regarding anything not [bleep] "tactical." LMAO! That is sooooooooo money.
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I would find it hard to buy a stock that cost more than my gun... Get rid of those cheap Rem 700s and spend the money to get a Winchester M70. Then you will have a rifle worth putting a McMillan on. INCOMING!!! You're preaching to the choir... A pre-64 custom 6.5-284 is my main deer rifle. An Ed Brown Damara in .300 Win Mag is my other "go to" rifle. My 700's have custom barrels in varmint calibers. Hope ole Swampy doesn't see what you just said about 700's...
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Swampy may favor Remingtons, but he knows the truth when he sees it. He just likes Remingtons because he's "frugal".
I saw a movie where only the military and the police had guns. It was called Schindler's List.
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because he's "frugal". I guess that's one of the kinder things I've heard spoken over Swampy...
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He's a very intelligent man; he just understands that others are intimidated by his knowledge so he tries to not start controversial exchanges. Very modest.
I saw a movie where only the military and the police had guns. It was called Schindler's List.
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There are 3 reasons to choose a synthetic stock.
Greater strength Better consistency in changing environmental conditions. Weight reduction.
Even the cheapest tupperware stocks will meet the first two criteria. When choosing an aftermarket stock it really comes down to weight, at least for me. I have no interest in any stock with a metal block molded into the stock to give it strength. If I want a stock that heavy I'll save even more money and go with laminated wood. If Stockade and B&C were truly building a good stock, they wouldn't need the aluminum blocks in them.
I've had good luck with High-Tech, Brown Precision and McMillan. McMillan ain't the cheapest, but they do offer a good stock that meets my criteria. They offer the most options, and in my experience are the one most likely to bolt right on the gun out of the box with the fewest problems. WOW you have absolutely no idea of what you are talking about
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This is a one-man shop, and took my friend for a dummy ,which he is when it comes to reloading. He told him that his rifle would "blow up" eventually, and that he needed a big company to sue when it did. I guess he wanted to sell him some factory ammo...whatever. Sounds like your buddy ran into a real genius behind the gun counter.
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Or an ingenious ammo salesman.....
The view one sees is his own Practitioner of the ancient art of skank fu
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He's a very intelligent man; he just understands that others are intimidated by his knowledge so he tries to not start controversial exchanges. Very modest. Bulletbutt, That's a good one...!
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I saw a movie where only the military and the police had guns. It was called Schindler's List.
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There are 3 reasons to choose a synthetic stock.
Greater strength Better consistency in changing environmental conditions. Weight reduction.
Even the cheapest tupperware stocks will meet the first two criteria. When choosing an aftermarket stock it really comes down to weight, at least for me. I have no interest in any stock with a metal block molded into the stock to give it strength. If I want a stock that heavy I'll save even more money and go with laminated wood. If Stockade and B&C were truly building a good stock, they wouldn't need the aluminum blocks in them.
I've had good luck with High-Tech, Brown Precision and McMillan. McMillan ain't the cheapest, but they do offer a good stock that meets my criteria. They offer the most options, and in my experience are the one most likely to bolt right on the gun out of the box with the fewest problems. WOW you have absolutely no idea of what you are talking about Been using synthetics for 30 years now. I've owned most all of them. I've got a pretty good idea what works and what don't. I've never said anything was junk, but for my uses I don't want an aftermarket stock unless it reduces the weight of the rifle. Every stock I've ever weighed with an aluminum block in it weighed as much, or more than wood. Often much more. I can't see the logic of spending $200-$300 on a stock that offers me no advantages over the stock that came on my rifle. Stocks such as Brown Precision, High-Tech and McMillan sure ain't cheap, but they have all reduced the weight of the rifles they are on by as much as a full pound with no loss of performance.
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The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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I would find it hard to buy a stock that cost more than my gun... Get rid of those cheap Rem 700s and spend the money to get a Winchester M70. Then you will have a rifle worth putting a McMillan on. INCOMING!!! If you want accuracy build a 700 if you want a hunting rifle build a Model 70
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They are the name of a synthetic stock made by Kevin Rayhill primarily for Savage rifles. http://www.stockadegunstocks.com/stocks.html
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My hunting weight pre-64 Model 70 in 6.5-284 has shot three shot groups in the teens. Now, I can't always pull it off, but the gun is able. Now, it's wearing a Krieger SS match grade bbl., action blueprinted with Borden's Bumps. It's pillared, torqued, glassed and free floated. But, it's still a M-70, with a few "modifications".
Just messing with you. I know what you're saying. The round bodied 700 is the most popular action for multiple custom applications. And, I have a few of those, too.
I like the M-70 safety. One can retrofit a 700 with the three piece, striker restraining safety. Never heard of a M-70 being fitted with a 700 safety and never heard of a M-70 "trigger lawsuit". So, +1 for the M-70 for a hunting rifle. Although I've never personally seen the 700 clip extractor fail, the controlled feed, large extractor on the M-70 is a confidence builder. It just looks better to me if I'm gunning for something that may want to eat me or stomp me in the ground...
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I've dealt with Kevin several times in the past. And the he is pretty much as described. You can be on the phone for HOURS.
I've had 2 of his stocks I think? They were OK to Good. But it seemed they were much different than a McMillan.
As a lefty, it's hard to get lefty stuff. The Stockade was available in all models in a lefty.
Honestly, I would like to see McMillan get some competition. Only half the Manners stocks are available in LH.
Having gone the Savage route with multiple rifles, I just can't warm up to them any longer.
Please God, give me some good tags this year....
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A Doe walks out of the woods today and says, that is the last time I'm going to do that for Two Bucks.
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bea/nsaquam: Thanks....never heard of them.
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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What IS that odd looking bench gun they have pictured on their website? ( [b][color:#000099]Stockade Stocks[/color][/b]) It looks to have an externally adjustable scope that sits about a foot above the bore. In fact, it looks rather odd, and I wonder what the application of that rifle might be...?
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