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Just stick with a good American made muzzleloader and you won't have to have a dog and a cane to get around.


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A simple search will point to the facts.


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simply removing you from the forums would probably do the same thing .
simple research point to those facts

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30-06 for a lion? Naaaah! Imma use my CVA Optima and a 250gr Thor. That'll git'r done fer sure.

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Originally Posted by captchee
personaly i cant see why a 30.06 wouldnt work .
hell in this day and age , one could simply use something like photoshop laugh
or cover up his groups with masking tape and only show closely spaced holes like he is pronte to do.

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Originally Posted by captchee
simply removing you from the forums would probably do the same thing .
simple research point to those facts


That would be the quick and easy solution.

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Originally Posted by Oldelkhunter
like he is pronte to do.


What is pronte?


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its french for Prone

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Originally Posted by bigblock455
its french for Prone


Thanks. it's like when Swampy couldn't spell Napoleon correctly on one of his troll posts

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I'm not french....nor spanish. You girls did well in finishing school.


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Originally Posted by Swampman700
I'm not french....nor spanish.
Yeah guys....he's Cherokee.


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Sheesh!

Get it right.


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Swampy, spanish muzzleloader are safe if you use them accordingly. Even the best american made is destroyed when you do wrong. Just to remind you, most of the firearms used in Cowboy Action Shooting are italian (except Rugers and some Shiloh rifle or some original) do you see them explode often...
The same thing in muzzle loading international comp where some spanish began to show up. In Europe, even black powders are controlled by proof house and ours are at least as good as yours in US of A. Most of the problem with firearms come from bad utilisation or misunderstanding by users...It's why (and dumb lawyers too) you're obliged in the USA to write such crazy sentences on the barrel of firearm: read the instruction manual before use.
Tradition, CVA or Lyman (no they are not US made)are safe and tough enough if you don't try to make them 300Bee...I used a Lyman in Quebec when living there and in France to (bought from Midway Germany)without problem. I refer my loading stuff to Lyman Blackpowder handloading manuel and i'm happy like that.
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I'm not french....nor spanish.
Yeah guys....he's Cherokee.


smirk go lightly with that one, i got a flesh wound from it

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Non-threaded breech plugs won't hold much pressure. No proof testing is another issue.


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Originally Posted by Swampman700
Non-threaded breech plugs won't hold much pressure. No proof testing is another issue.

Have not seen a CVA that had non threaded breech plugs have you? CVA should sue you and that jackass Wakeman. Rick should ban you permanently.

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i think it was nef that used a press in style bushing. They stopped making it pretty quickly due to them popping out and hitting the shooter in the face.

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http://randywakeman.com/DangerousMuzzleloadersAHistory.htm

If Randy were wrong, they would force him to shut down his site. Note defective breech plug.....


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when a savage blows up, randy always claims it was shooter error wink Hes a troll just like you swampy.


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Toby blew that gun up on purpose. We all know that, and it's well documented. On top of that, it's a moot point.


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