Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire Unreasonably high minimum wage ..... ?

That's the real problem today . Too many honestly believe that. Those folksa could use a bit of humility. But for the grace of god and all that.

Ya'll know Steve_No believes he can work an elephant for a monkey's worth of peanuts.

Problem is there are alot of people making next to nothing, or making nothing living off the guvment teet, that think they are better than that, but they aren't, and hence the resentment.

I'd be pretty damned ashamed of myself if after 20+ years working I could be replaced by a teenage kid, or a kid fresh out of college. Trouble is alot of folks have no shame, nor no clue that if they aren't making their company a proffit, they aren't much use to the company.

You have NO [bleep] CLUE how many of those folks are out there today. If they all relocated there still wouldn't be enough good paying jobs to go around. I know two personally who worked for a government contract aerospace company making over 50k annually just a few years ago. Today, one of them works behind the gun counter at Dick's sporting goods and the other is a janitor at the local high school. Both have college degree's and neither makes 20k annually now.

But for the grace of God, I've been there, and I fought my way back. Nobody gave me anything along the way, including the government.

A minimum wage of $7.25 means ten employees costs the employer $580 per day with no allowances for talent or productivity. I'm better than the other nine, so I want a bigger cut.

So you'd like to think. Such is not ther case more often than not.

Depending on the locality and its cost of living, a minimum wage may need to be higher than in other areas. For example, in the DC (or NY) metropolitan area, it takes a minimum annual income of about $28,000 for a single person to live (you want a family?, add more). This translates to about $14 per hour, which is why some families live in tents in the woods near highways. Many of the homeless are decent folks who have jobs; they just do not pay enough to live indoors.

Keep in mind, those migrant workers send many millions of dollars back to Mexico and other places- which is one reason they look so broke and destitute. They are living on half of what they earn, unlike many Americans who are living on twice what they earn.
And the MAJORITY of minimum wage workers ARE students employed by universities, and that does NOT ignore the fact that in this lousy economy there are probably more adults working for minimum wage than ususal, and I am NOT an example of any fundamental misunderstanding.
(I have no need to insult anyone with creatively mispelled expletives, either).
Bottom line, if you can't afford to live on the wage you can get, you have to add skills, change your living situation, or in many cases, simply show up for 3 or 4 weeks in a row and you'll get a raise.
But like Ron White says, "you can't fix stupid", so some people are always going to be struggling, and that's a tragedy that will always be with us. There would be fewer, though, if the governement would quit incentivising poverty.

Actually, that is the case.

Waitressing is a classic example of a minimum wage job. There are always standouts that you know are on their way to something better, and always those you know will be there five years from now. I'd be hard pressed to name a minimum wage job where that isn't the case.

Actually, most folks I meet these days who are college educated and have good paying jobs, I just stand back in wonder cuz it's obvious within two minutes that they're dumb as a bag full of hammers.

yeah, shame they're not smart like all your buddies who still work at minimum wage jobs.

jeez, you are pathetic. the failure and envy just drip off of you.

Have those people been spending any time searching the internet for jobs across the country, or internationally?

I've moved across country, and started work in a field I had no experience in, though my engineering degree got my foot in the door. It's turned out to be a lucrative field. I also spent the last two years at my previous employer stressed as I watched our work load continually dwindle, but while that was happening I was keeping my eyes out for job opportunities. I landed another job before my previous employer had to let me go, much easier to find a job while you're employed, and I definately wouldn't be making nearly what I make now if I'd been unemployed when I was offered the job.

But then again I'll do what it takes to keep gainfully employed, if I have to work 1/2 way around the world and am gone 1/2 the year, I'd do it, if I had to relocate to Texas (perish the thought) I'd do it.

We're in a competitive fast moving world, one needs to be up on what jobs are in demand, and be ahead of the 8 ball when they see their industry starting to falter. I worked in Silicon valley for 4 years, two much boom/bust in the high tech industry, and the wages that seemed high weren't nearly high enough given the cost of living and taxes in the Bay Area. Moved to Alaska 14 years ago, took two jobs and two years to get my salary back to what it was, but pretty much doubled my standard of living.

My friends wife was born in the Caribean, and he said they grew up basically in shacks. In less than 10 years she's become a millionaire running assisted living homes. She has no advanced degree, no silver spoon, but through hard work, good business skills and savvy she has become very wealthy. Can everybody do it? No, but to those that seek it out, the opportunities are there.

took me alot less to see that about you

Yeah well [bleep] you very much you worthless POS. The fact is, I'm in charge of a whole crew of men and it's almost impossible to get people with an IQ higher than a brook trout no matter where you look or how much you pay these days. The main problem being that most of the guys I'm trying to make into dedicated, competent workers are the progeny of worthless a$$wholes like you.

lol,..the fat cats who hold the purse strings are scooping hundreds of billions of dollars of the people's wealth and passing it around to their butt buddies,..and the people fight over who gets to keep the pennies.

Despite the spewing in your post, under the situation you describe how can you defend a government-mandated wage for such useless people?

If you're not snivelling because of the taxes you have to pay as a result of being in the top 1% of wage earners in the country, you're begruding other people the ability to make enough money to live a decent life on.

bad form,...very bad form.

not very consistent with your libertarian principles, B.

you really want the government telling you what you have to pay people? can they also make you hire them? keep you from firing them?

Ability? If that word was part of the equation minimum wage would be irrelevant.

which one is you?