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Speaking of circles, does this bring us back to firewater, and the production thereof?

I dunno, maybe them chupas are attracted to alchohol (and mouldy coffee).

Birdwatcher

I'd like to add that I'm not making fun of Leanwolf -- he wrote a great post and my curiosity is aroused! I'll also mention that I've known some pretty credible people who have spoken of strange things. I'm always interested...

No RACIST innuendo expressed,or implied, by my last post.
It is very hot, and this Pacifico Cervesa,well, it wakes up the dark side of an inherently off the wall sense of humor.

Mothballs are effective,at keeping these things away from yer chicken coop, and other outbuildings.If you're a lab rat,in Kalifornia,you can't play with mothballs......hazardous there.

GTC

None taken, and it wouldn't work anyway, the narcotrafficantes and coyotes would slit them pinche pseudo-cabras's throats, and leave 'em hanging as a warning.

Birdwatcher

Boggy,

I haven't been down Texas way for 10 years. Last time I was
in Texas was a business trip in August 1995 to Dallas. I was
told that it had been 100 degrees or hotter each day for the
previous 6 weeks straight and no rain.

The day that I arrived, a tropical storm settled itself over Dallas
and poured rain for the entire 4 day business trip. Besides
torrential downpours, the temperature stayed well below
the normal "eggs-frying-on-the-sidewalk" range.

When colleagues asked what I thought of Texas, my honest
reply was that it was too cold and wet for me.

I do plan to head down that way in a couple of years though.

Chuck

Dallas you say. Well, Chuck, you was close to prime Chupa country and didn't know it. Next time you get to Big D get some of the natives to guide you to south Dallas. Down around fair park. You will see sights that will make your hair curl. Chupas roam the streets especially at dusk. Probably see a few specimins of the southern race of Bigfoot. Known as Skunk Ape down here.

BCR

The creature in the photos is not a chupacabra. They do indeed have wings and can fly short distances, much like a roadrunner. I've never bagged one, but I can say from experience that four loads of of #7-1/2 from a 12 gauge in quick succession won't do a thing to stop one. They do make a weird noise when you sting 'em, though. They make a sound almost like a bigfoot trying to imitate a turkey call.

Riverrider:

In the world of Cryptozoology you can have your selection and take your pick of a "Chupacbara" whichever strikes your fancy.
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Supposed semblance
Chupacabras are said to prominently appear in three specific forms. The first and most common: a lizard-like being, appearing to have leathery/scaly greenish-gray skin and sharp spines or quills running down its back. It stands approximately 3-4 feet high, and stands/hops in a similar fashion as a kangaroo (in at least one sighting, the creature hopped 20 feet). This variety is said to have a dog or panther-like nose and face, a forked tongue protruding from it, large fangs, and is said to hiss and screech when alarmed, as well as to leave a sulfuric stench behind.

The second variety also stands/hops as a kangaroo, and it has coarse fur with greyish facial hair. The head is similar to a dog's, and its mouth has large teeth.

The third form is simply that of a strange breed of wild dog that is mostly hairless, has a pronounced spinal ridge, unusually pronounced eye sockets, teeth, and claws, but is otherwise a typical canine. This animal is said to be the result of interbreeding between several populations of wild dogs, though enthusiasts claim that it might be an example of an extinct dog-like reptile. The account during the year 2000 in Nicaragua of a Chupacabra corpse being found supports the conclusion that it is simply a strange breed of wild dog. The alleged corpse of the animal was found in Tolapa, Nicaragua, and forensically analyzed at UNAN-Leon. Pathologists at the University found that it was just a dog; albeit a little unusual looking one. It should be noted that there are very striking morphological differences between different breeds of dogs (which wild dogs are generally descended from) that easily account for the strange characteristics of such an animal.

Witnesses claim some chupacabras are covered with black hair, have red eyes, a bulbous head, and bat-like wings. Sometimes they crawl on all fours, and other times they stand erect (like prairie dogs do). They are very quick, can climb well, and usually run away when seen. Some say their eyes have the ability to hypnotize and paralyze their prey�the prey animal is mentally stunned. This allows the chupacabra to suck the animal's blood at its leisure. The effect is similar to a snake or spider that stuns its prey with venom. The chupacabra sucks all the animal's blood (and sometimes organs) through a single hole or two holes, unlike other predators that tear the corpse apart.

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Naming convention
The creature is known as both "Chupacabras" and "Chupacabra" throughout the Americas, with the former probably being the original word, and the latter a regularization of it. The name can be preceded by the masculine definite article ("El Chupacabras"), which means roughly "the Goat-sucker" in Spanish. A good way to illustrate the way the word is formed in Spanish is with a sentence like the following:

El Chupacabras chupa cabras.
"The Goat-sucker sucks goats."
It is a common mistake among people who don't speak Spanish very well to think that "Chupacabras" is necessarily plural. In Spanish, compound words such as this very often include a plural term, even when the resulting word is singular. Examples from the Spanish language include "correcaminos" ("road-runner"), "lavapi�s" ("feet washing") (a ceremony of the Catholic Church), "paraca�das" (parachute, literally "stops-falls"), "lavamanos" (bathroom sink, literally "washes-hands"), "abrelatas" (can-opener, "opens-cans"), "sacapuntas" (pencil sharpener, lit. "sharpens-tips"), and many, many others.

Bill Tibbe

I guess all of us DUMB AZZ MEXICANS are all a little smarter now, thanks for the input WETIBBE, or should we just call you WETBACK. Thanks NOT <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />

In many American Indian cultures the owl was a harbinger of dread and doom, an omen of death to the Navahos for example, and the legendary "Cannibal Owl" of the north woods roamed the fringes of Iroquois imagination.

The term "chupacabra" (goat sucker) predates the arrival of the Spanish in the New World, and, in Latin form (Caprimulgiformes) is still used to refer to a whole Order of insect-eating nocturnal birds, the whippoorwills and the like. The name "goatsucker" stemmed from a belief these birds sucked milk from teats of milking goats at night.

This belief stemming from the fact that nightjars (what Europeans call their own whippoorwill-equivalents) will frequently land on the ground in open area, jumping up to catch flying insects with their cavernous mouths.

Livestock stirs up insects, ergo nightjars landing amid goat flocks and appearing to jump up around their underbellies. Thus the Old World legend of the nocturnal "goat sucker" was born, not especially evil or predatory, merely a drinker of milk. Nocturnal birds are regarded favorably in the Old World, compare the 'wise old owl" of European folklore to the "Cannibal Owl" of the Iroquois.

Bring the term "goat sucker" to Mexico applied to a nocturnal bird, combine that with a pre-existing dread of nocturnal birds in general and presto, the generically evil, polymorphic "goatsucker" is born. A Hispanic buddy of mine ran outside one night with a shotgun to chase away what he thought was a chupacabra, based on the descrition it was almost certainly an owl (had he been a bird watcher, he would have known).

Birdwatcher

Durn your hide Birdy, don't take the mystery and terror out of old Chupy with logic. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> and facts <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

That's plain mean of you. I bet you are so mean you'd push little ducks off in the water.


BCR

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I prefer to dwell on the connection 'tween Elvis and 'Ol Chupy.

Birdwatcher

BW--don't miss article in today's NYT about the ivory billed wood pecker controversy. Had no idea it was such a viciously debated issue amongst the birding esablishment. Wonder if they'll ask Judge Roberts his view? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Steve, I have been following the story, and am wating for the publication to come out. Cornell has a pretty strong case I think. OTOH I'm hoping that the rebuttal case against the sighting, when formally made, is a strong one.

Opponents of preserving the bird will doubtless jump on the "see, not even all of the experts agree" angle whatever the merits of the rebuttal case. It would be a shame if they were able to make that argument over a weak rebuttal.

Birdwatcher

Doggone it, let's not let this thread go astray -- it's Chupacapras (sp?) and werewolves that a man ought to be armed and ready for -- not some woodpecker!!! It takes a lot to make me angry, but I surely wish some of you guys would get serious about this! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

What you worried about, tham thar thangs ain't gonna stand up to a .41 Mag.!!!!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Well, can it hurt to KNOW, T? Huh?

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Drive on down to Boggy's, I'll bet he will find ya something to shoot with them pistolas, maybe even a bigfoot. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> Me, I'll take along my two Ruger Single Six .32H&R Magnums laoded with silver bullets. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Heck, I better get me some silver and start casting for my.41s -- you sound like you know what you're talking about