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Originally Posted by scenarshooter
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A 20 pointer(grin), I killed in Eastern Montana about 30 years ago.

That's a brute! cool

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Definately not one that needs longarming or standing a few feet back behind is it..grin

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Thanks Ben! How you summer'n?


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Scenarshooter.....

Correct....NO RIFLE hunting in the state of Iowa!!! Bows only during rut.

Muzzleloader, shotgun slugs, handguns (with requirements), and bows are only allowed for deer (bucks).

A few years back Iowa started allowing an anterless season in Jan. and allowed rifles.... and us trophy hunters HATE IT!!!! I love shooting the rifles... but sooooo many BIG "does" (with bloody peticles) get shot from folks who dont take the time to confirm what they are shooting!!!! They just see a GREAT BIG antlerless deer!!! UGH! frown

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Originally Posted by Mark R Dobrenski
Definately not one that needs longarming or standing a few feet back behind is it..grin

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Wish I those field pics to do over again....did'nt know any better back then!


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Real well! Had some flooding, but no damage(to us). The sweet clover is truck-door deep and I can't wait for Mule Deer season! grin

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Originally Posted by 257wthbylover
Scenarshooter.....

Correct....NO RIFLE hunting in the state of Iowa!!! Bows only during rut.

Muzzleloader, shotgun slugs, handguns (with requirements), and bows are only allowed for deer (bucks).

A few years back Iowa started allowing an anterless season in Jan. and allowed rifles.... and us trophy hunters HATE IT!!!! I love shooting the rifles... but sooooo many BIG "does" (with bloody peticles) get shot from folks who dont take the time to confirm what they are shooting!!!! They just see a GREAT BIG antlerless deer!!! UGH! frown


That sux!! I dont think much of December doe seasons...


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Originally Posted by mtcurman
Real well! Had some flooding, but no damage(to us). The sweet clover is truck-door deep and I can't wait for Mule Deer season! grin


Ever make it up this way, stop and we'll visit.....probably mostly about coyotes.....grin!


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Originally Posted by scenarshooter
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Definately not one that needs longarming or standing a few feet back behind is it..grin

Dober


Wish I those field pics to do over again....did'nt know any better back then!



Pat, at least you have pics of back in the day!
I didn't realize they had invented cameras until I joined here 4 or 5 years ago....grin


Whitetails on the bottom sure are pushed around with all the water.

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Originally Posted by scenarshooter
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Real well! Had some flooding, but no damage(to us). The sweet clover is truck-door deep and I can't wait for Mule Deer season! grin


Ever make it up this way, stop and we'll visit.....probably mostly about coyotes.....grin!

That would be fun! Me and Dad wanted to make it to your shoot, but it rained and we couldn't get out.

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Originally Posted by rattler
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Dober, trick question....grin



Is this whitetail or mule deer country?

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180 degrees to the west.
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10 clicks to the east.

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the country looks familiar......cant quite place why whistle


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Originally Posted by BobinNH
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Two biggest whitetails I ever shot stopped to look back.



Yes. Whitetails stop to look back, too.....sometimes....the differences are that most whitetails are hunted in thicker country and if you spook them,sometimes they will behave this way,running for the first 75-150 yards or so...the difference is that in cover you can't see them do it...but if you track them,and depending on how badly they have been spooked,you will see where they stopped to check on their backtrail and what spooked them.....

OTOH, mule deer are found in somewhat more open country,and you can see this behaviour.

But it can vary a lot and the bigger mule deer know how to use terrain....I have seen big one's stop, but others just melt off and disappear altogether in country so devoid of cover you can't fathom where they went.....in any event you better not count on it with a big one and generally your first crack will be the only one.

With either one expect the unexpected.
that deserves to be said again. in west texas you find big muleys after the season in rut, or you have access to semi-tame deer on irrigated crops or you get a helicopter. they lay in the middle of nowhere in tall love grass under a little mesquite bush and move only at night.


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Originally Posted by Calvin
I'd love to do a backpack hunt in some foothills/mountains for Whitetail/Mule Deer. Does such a hunt exist?
you might look around 'paradise' montana. sacramento mountains of se nm have wt and muleys but the mt lions are so thick you can rarely find a decent muley. i archery hunted there a lot 35 yr ago till the coyote furs went down. i would see 20-40 muleys a day (no wt there then). for 30 years the biologists havent been able to turn the deer around with the no's of coyote and lion they raise. there are deer in town to escape predation but far all p. purpose there are a thousand sq miles of beautiful mts w/o huntable populations of deer. around rankin texas there has been mixed muleys and wt. and around mc camey tx. but drought has wrecked antlers. i could maybe put you on a pay to play ranch. trout creek, montana is good horn country for each and i got a 160 clas wt there too damned long ago. i heard some good abt 'bullseye outfitters' there. i'd like to go back and hunt there solo but the knees are trouble and it seems to snow the following week if you know what i mean. good fortune


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Originally Posted by 257wthbylover
Probably not fair for me to chime in..... BUT, being from Iowa and having 5 Whitetails on the wall over 170", its MULEY ALL THE WAY!!!! In fact, I have a Trophy Desert muley booked for this winter! I have waited long enough and I agree....trying to find and shoot a nice/big muley is one hard deal these days. Whitetails....not so much. But than again, I live in whitetail heaven so I am a lil spoiled in that aspect.
dddaam, you want a muley how big/bad.


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Originally Posted by 257wthbylover
OK.... i will post pics later today/this evening. I have 9 over 160", 5 of which go over 170". If you added the ones I did not shoot....but have "swamped hunts" adn guided fellas to....well.... add a couple more 170-180 bucks the last few yrs and about 8-9 more in the 160" arena. I will post some of those pics as well.

Some get there by mass--- some by points---some just have it all! None of them over OVERLY wide! I dont want to hi-jack this thread so i will start a new one with "deer hunting". All of them have been taken wiht a bow or a muzzleloader and all here in Iowa.

Oh---the net/gross question.... that is gross. I have NEVER entered one into the book, nor do i plan on it. If a deer grows it, he deserves credit for it IMO. wink
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Originally Posted by 257wthbylover
Scenarshooter.....

Correct....NO RIFLE hunting in the state of Iowa!!! Bows only during rut.

Muzzleloader, shotgun slugs, handguns (with requirements), and bows are only allowed for deer (bucks).

A few years back Iowa started allowing an anterless season in Jan. and allowed rifles.... and us trophy hunters HATE IT!!!! I love shooting the rifles... but sooooo many BIG "does" (with bloody peticles) get shot from folks who dont take the time to confirm what they are shooting!!!! They just see a GREAT BIG antlerless deer!!! UGH! frown
uh, i shoot a bow


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Hey Bighorn - THANKS a lot. (G). NICE. Yep I'd trade a very good w t for that.
I've killed a few 135-140s. There aren't many w t as nice as that Mulie. Congrats.

I've seen a few w ts better than 140 but not in the right place at the right time.

Now I've STILL got 4 plus months of FEVER ! ! !


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Originally Posted by scenarshooter
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Just so you whitetail guys dont feel left out....pics I took last summer...never went back and hunted any of these bucks. Had too many good mule deer bucks located......grin!
i could lower the wt population and leave more food for yer mule deer


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Originally Posted by scenarshooter

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I think I've finally seen a mule deer that gave me a chubby. *grins*


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