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PRB,
Thanks for sharing that. That's some very interesting findings. A few follow-up questions:
How many shots were in the strings fired? What bullet was used?
(Or are those questions answered in your link?)
Thanks.
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I'm using 23 inches on a Savage 99 and the same length on a Sako L-579. Each has a different contour to achieve the balance and handling I like. YMMV.
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"I have always found it interesting that individuals will hunt in the brush with ease using a shotgun with a 26" barrel but the same ones feel a 26" barrel on a rifle is way too long to use in the same woodlot."
Here is why. At least it used to be that 26" barrels for shotguns, was about the shortest barrel length you could get on a shotgun. And a break open double or single barreled shotgun, with 26" barrel(s), is approximately the same length as a short (22") barreled rifle.
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It is my impression that model changes with different barrel weights are also at issue here.
Ruger first introduced the Creedmore in a 1B model with the 26" medium or standard weight barrel. These disappeared pretty fast and are scarce on the ground now.
Then they went to the 1V heavy varmint barrel at 24" in length. (The heavier barrel would optimize its use in long range competitions as it would not heat up as fast? Not many would carry this one in the field for deer etc.)
Is there a factory issue 1A in a light or sporter weight barrel at 22" for use as a hunter?
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There were some 1A's made. Pretty nice rifle but finding one now may be a bit difficult. I have not ran the chrono to find how much difference there really is between the 1B & 1A. Might be an interesting project.
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No. Either barrel length or even shorter will be very adequate for 400 yard deer sized game with correct bullet and shot placement. I have the itch for a 6.5 creedmoor........Ruger changed the barrel length from 26" to 24"..........JB and other's seem to think 26" might be the best"..."..any thoughts? Plan on setting one up to shoot 120-130 grain bullets for hunting out to 300-400 yards.......deer and speed goats for the most part........should I be hung up on that 2" difference?
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I would rather go with a stout 20" barrel.
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26", I have several 26" barrel rifles and I like the way they point. I have two 6.5 Creedmoors, a Ruger SS Hawkeye with a 26" tube and a Browning Long Range Hunter with a 26" barrel also, i haven't shot either. I have witnessed Flattop Johnny on this site shoot tiny 200 yard groups with 26" SS Hawkeye and his Ruger Target rifle. That is the reason I bought my 6.5's.
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- 26" Barrel: 2860 fps - This is what he was getting after 1,200 rounds (no suppressor)
- 22" Barrel: 2805 fps - This is what he was getting after 800 rounds (no suppressor)
Overall he only lost 55 fps after cutting off 4" of barrel,... BALANCE has to be any real difference IMO. The small case capacity does not need a long barrel. The chrono lists above bears that out. As with other things Personal Preference is what counts.
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With regard to original post: I say you do not need to fret about the 2" difference in barrel length. I think 400 yds is a long poke for hunting with that caliber but the extra 2" won't change it much. I would jump up to a larger cartridge so I was not feeling the need to push maximum loads. BUT if you are hot for the little 6.5 then by all means go for it and get what you want and have a ball.
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