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I have been watching for a reasonably priced 582 to sit next to my first rifle. A 580 I received for Christmas in 1976, here it is now with the un-finished Black Walnut replacement stock. I need to get busy and install the Burris Compact 4x12 AO on it and go hunt. That's a really nice stock. Mine is a 581-S (well, it used to be) and really shot well, but I wanted to make it a bit better so now it looks like this. Sort of a 541-T wannabe. Originally, I worked the stock trigger down to 18oz., then I replaced it with a Canjar, next I reworked a 788 Timney, and finally settled on a 3 screw 541. The barrel is an original 541-T sporter barrels that has been threaded, rechambered to a 52D chamber, and recrowned. The action is trued, locking lugs lapped, firing pin reworked, and pillar bedded in an old Bishop stock made for a 541 Rem. .3" or better at 50yds. is normal for this Squirrel rifle.
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got the gun back from the gunsmiths with the trigger set to 3 pounds. In a gun this light I think that the trigger could actually be a bit lighter. Anyway I took it out and shot some 3 shot groups with it at 50 yards. I went a bit crazy and tried about 15 different kinds of ammo. It will shoot between .25 and .45 with the following ammo The two best types of ammo that I tried in the gun was cci green tag competition and some discontinued pmc hollowpoints that my cousin gave me. Both of these bullets would shoot repeatable .25 inch groups. That said the following bullets will shoot under .45 inches.
cci mini mags cci green tag (competition) cci velocitor cci stinger pmc zapper or predator (whichever one has the hollow point) winchester 37 grain hollowpoint rws match special cci select remington golden bullet bulk federal gold medal match
Can anyone recommend a different bullet for me to try? I like trying other types of ammo and I might find something that shoots better than the 13 dollar per box cci green tag competition ammo. I feel sorta like a fool shooting 14 dollar per hundred .22 ammo ammo especially when I am not shooting it in a match grade gun. Would anyone care to comment on that?
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You might try the Federal Champion Auto match, some wally worlds carry it: I had a 581 for awhile, killed a ton of squirrels, fox and a bobcat with it. MtnHtr
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thanks for the input. The gun also likes winchester powerpoints.
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Green Tag seems hard to beat in those for some reason. Pretty nice shooting I'd say you're doing already.
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I would give CCI Subsonics a try. Also RWS Match Rifle, Wolf MT, SK Jag Standard Plus, Winchester Subsonic, RWS Subsonics, and Aguila Subsonics.
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I tried cci subsonics and they didn't shoot that well. Neither did wolf match extra. Finding ammo is tough around here since most shops only stock cci mini mags and the really cheap stuff. I stocked up on some federal auto match at walmart today.
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I've never gotten Wolf Match Extra to shoot very well either. Wolf Match Target usually does exceptionally well. I don't remember if you listed it, but Winchester Dynapoints generally shoot great in a lot of rimfires and it's sold by Walmart.
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My local walmart doesn't sell dynapoints in .22 longrifle. They do have winchester hollowpoints but they didn't do as well as the powerpoints. Powerpoints will do about .4 for 5 shots at 50 in my gun which isn't bad I guess. Green tag will do under .3 most of the time but it may be just a tad expensive for shooting squirrels. Old lots of pmc zapper shoot that well but it isn't made anymore.
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K22, that is a sharp looking Remington!
79, you might try SKJagd Standard Plus and Match Extra, both shot excellent in my 580 and they are reasonably priced for hunting, not so much for plinking.
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Thanks RDW.
Generally I buy my rimfire ammo off the internet. Some of the websites like Champion Shooters Supply will let you buy a single box of several types of ammo so you can find out what your gun likes. Then you can go back and order a larger quantity.
And I agree, SK Jag Standard Plus would be a good one to try.
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I also have a k22 that i am messing around with. If you have a favorite round for that gun please throw it out there. Best I have done is .5-.8 inch groups at 25 yards and that was with rws match special ammo.
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K22 as in Kleingunther? or as in Kimber? If a Kleingunther, mine loves RWS subsonic and or R50.
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ahh.. i meant k-22 model 17 revolver
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Was by a local pawn shop and spied a 581 with a shortened barrel and no clip....for me, it is well worth $100....I have a spare clip so we will see how she shoots.
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hey burt how did that .22 shoot?
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Well, still haven't put it on paper but shoots minute of tuna can with cci short hp out the back door...:-)
Very smooth action, terrible trigger and a el paso weaver scope completes the deal. Definitely had some cutting on the barrel, no rear site, and thinking some cutting on the stock.....balances very well.....my wife says its hers.....oh well. There is a 580,581 and 582 over at RFC classified
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