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I can get the 3-9x36 Swarovski Z3 for super low price right now.
What is the consensus regarding the quality and functionality of this scope?
Would it be an upgrade over my 3-9x40 Conquest?
The price is really great and it has me thinking.
Any help will be appreciated. nsaqam I had been thinking the same thing, the prices are low right now and the Swaro's are 3-4 oz's lighter tnan my Conquest, But I have had SIX different Zeiss and everyone has held zero no matter how hard they were handled.
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I would have to concurr with the "Swaro failure guys" here. They have failed me more than once with not holding zero and refusing to change POI on more than one occasion. And failed quite a few friends as well. I think they spend waay too much on advertising and not enough on build quality or design. Too many failures for the money asked. Never will I own one again.
If you want good quality hay then expect to pay a fair price, if you want to buy hay that has already been thru the horse, well that comes a little cheaper.
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Thanks BobinNH, I will not buy the Swaro. Like you there are enough variables in the field as it is, I sure don't need the scope crapping out on me. I would run Zeiss but don't like the weight. I guess I'm sticking with Leupold. I like the 2.5-8's anyway.
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JOC was right. The 270 Winchester on a Model 70 is a great combination as is the 30/06 and 375 H&H
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You guys are going to make E have an orgasm..
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My new Leupold just failed to hold zero....... I mean c'mon guys.
The CENTER will hold.
Reality, Patriotism,Trump: you can only pick two
FÜCK PUTIN!
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You guys are going to make E have an orgasm..
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I just hate it when the "trump card" of the anti-Swaro guys is a Leup holding zero. I've sent two scopes back to Leup for erector issues. The VX3 I just bought had zero shift almost 2" at 100 yds on me in the early going. Etc.
Like I say, if/when I see my AV do something funny I'll report it. I'm not married to any brand. So far it's been mechanically perfect.
The CENTER will hold.
Reality, Patriotism,Trump: you can only pick two
FÜCK PUTIN!
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Nsaqam: Meopta Meopro...
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No problems w/ my 4-12x50 AV after 6 years. Mounted on a Sako M75 Hunter Stainless .270; pretty mild recoil.
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I liked my Z3 3-9x36 so much I traded it for a 3.5-10x Leupold. I'll not run another Swaro. I remember that....
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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All that light musta bothered his eyes................
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Nsaqam: Meopta Meopro... as for holding a zero...... I dropped my meopta/rifle out of a 12-14 ft tree stand, took it to the range and it killed a dot right on the next day.
Loving life in the Great North West one day at a time.
sounds like its time for a new gun.
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Bobin:
The more things change (new products esp. variables) ... the more they stay the same - Leupold fixed powers always coming thru when the chips are down.
Wise move - having a fixed Leupy around you can count on.
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Bobin:
The more things change (new products esp. variables) ... the more they stay the same - Leupold fixed powers always coming thru when the chips are down.
Wise move - having a fixed Leupy around you can count on. 65: A spare always gets tossed in the duffle when I leave for a hunt.... I don't think they are the best scope in the world, but often my biggest concern is that bullets go where rifle and scope are pointed.... my "luck" with the fixed Leups in that regard has been generally, pretty good.
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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PreXactly - Agreed. Good planning
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It's why both my travel rifles have Leupold QR mounts on them.
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The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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I have a 6x42 Meopta and 6x42 Leupold M8 with reticles from Premier. In comparison I love the light weight of the Leupy. The view and brightness between them is splitting hairs and both hold zero faithfully. My Leupy has wheel of fortune friction adjustments. Pure spin and guess on this scope- oversensitive. The Meopta is perfection in both eye piece and windage\elevation. Solid clicks that move p.o.a. as promised. I do see the 36mm Z3 at Natchezss for around $750. The 3-9 x40 for I think $899. I started a thread asking about them before seeing yours so I deleted it. Think my next scope highest proabability will be another Meopta, good deal on a Weaver Slam of some sort...then Leupold depending on needs.
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When a country is well governed, poverty and a mean condition are something to be ashamed of. When a country is ill governed, riches and honors are something to be ashamed of . Confucius
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RD - I hear those QRs are very good about off/on keeping proper zero. It's not a bad way to go from the start esp. if one is traveling and/or hunting in remote areas.
An FXII or M8 in 4x or 6x is small and light and cheap 'insurance.'
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Leup QR's have returned to zero well enough for me for normal hunting purposes. That said a scope zeroed in Talley LW's would, I bet, be damn close if you took it out then put it back in them.
The CENTER will hold.
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FÜCK PUTIN!
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