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I shoot a fair amount of 300 H&H ammo out of 3 different rifles. They all shoot very well with Federal Premium 180 Grain Partitions but the ammo is getting very expensive. Does anyone know where I can find the "recipe" for that load? I have over 500 rounds of brass that I would like to load the same as that facory ammo. Anyone know where I could find it?


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What is the velocity you are getting?



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You can look here for some load data.

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I found a lot of good data in Ken Waters pet load book.


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Try Steve's Reloading Pages.

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200 gn Sierra BTHP and 72 gns. H-4831 SC and lite it w/ a Fed. 215GM primer, start about 10 thou. off.

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I've had great luck with 71g of RL22 and 180 TTSX's @3050 fps.

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Thanks guys. I have some recipes but I was just trying to reproduce that Federal load. My no. 1 and 721's just love that load and it performs well on the critters.


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OK, then You can chrono those factory loads and H-4831 SC will get you there w/ the 180's as well.
Its a very stable powder for hunting in all temps, my old H&H supergrade loves that powder.

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Originally Posted by handwerk
I've had great luck with 71g of RL22 and 180 TTSX's @3050 fps.


That is EXACTLY my load, cci-250 primers. and it WORKS. Sub half MOA Pre-war 64 Mod 70


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My #1S Ruger really likes 71 gr/IMR 4350, Fed 215M, 165 gr Nosler Accubond, Nosler brass. Tried several combinations w/ other powders/bullets, this was by far the best.

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Originally Posted by 160user
Thanks guys. I have some recipes but I was just trying to reproduce that Federal load. My no. 1 and 721's just love that load and it performs well on the critters.



Pull a bullet, look at the powder, weigh it and see what matches up. Problem is, factory ammo often uses non-canister powders or blends that aren't available to us.

There is basically no NEW 300 H&H data available from any of the main manufacturers. It is apparently not worth their time and money to develop loads for a mostly dead cartridge. What there is, however, is lots of new data for the 300 WSM and I have had good luck using that data for the 300 H&H.

If you want to load a 300 H&H with Mag Pro or R17 or whatever other new boutique powder on the market, your best resource is 300WSM data.


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Yep. Dennis is spot-on in every way.

Most (but not all) factory ammo uses powders handloaders can't get. This doesn't mean they're all that different, or "magic," just that they aren't quite the same as what we can buy.

The .300 H&H and .300 WSM are extremely similar in case capacity. In fact a gunsmith friend of mine ran an experiment with the same barrel rechambered from .300 H&H to .300 WSM and got essentially identical results with the same powder charges and bullets, and he was not only testing velocity but pressure with a strain-gauge system.


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Charlie Sisk did that experiment with same Barrel I think. Almost identical.

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Wow, you drug this up??


I am taking my 300 H&H to Africa next month. I know it isn't the classic load but I really like the 150 Partition golds in that rifle. Between that and my 458 I should have all my bases covered adequately.


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I shoot 150 partitions in mine also. They kill deer and pigs deader than hell.

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I've tried many bullets in my Model 70 .300 H&H but almost all were in the 165-200 grain range. About half displayed very good accuracy, but none have matched the Barnes 150 TTSX BT with H4831. I've only done preliminary work so far and I'm not a fan of light bullets in .300 magnums, but I intend to verify initial results with this bullet soon. I tried this bullet in a Remington 700 5R in .300 Winchester Magnum with H4350. The Barnes also shot very well in it.

The 200 gr. Sierra GK has been a close second to the Barnes in both rifles.

Never got much better than mediocre accuracy with the 150 Barnes in any .308 or .30-06.

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Not "THE" load but "A" load Hope it helps

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I have two loads for my Rem 721, both of which aren’t top velocities but both will put four shots between 3/4-1”. It seems to like loads in the 2900 fps range.

64 grs of H-4350, a 180 Partition, Fed215, Hornady brass at 4.018 b-o (base to ogive with my Hornady gauge) for 2900 fps +/- 10fps

56 grs of IMR 4166, a 165 A/bond or 168 B/Tip, CCI 250, Nosler brass at 4.018 b-o for 2925 +/- 15


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I shoot the Barnes 165 TTSX in my Remington 300 Win mag 5R. They are very accurate. I just got a 300 Weatherby, I’m going to try the 150 TTSX in it.

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When Barnes went away from the flat base bullets I could never get them to shoot. I never did get any Barnes bullets to shoot in my 340 Wby. I'll bet Randy Brooks gave me 300 bullets trying to find something to work. Just never happened.

I am loading up a bunch of X bullets in my 458 Lott. We'll see how they do. Maybe they will over penetrate!


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63.0gr of R17, Fed215, WW brass and 180gr Partition (2nds from the Shooter's Pro Shop) has been very accurate in my M70XTR. I'll get just a bit over 3000fps with that load.


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Other than Barnes, I haven't had very many bullets and loads directly out of the Hornady or Nosler loading books that don't shoot exceptionally well with H4831, H4350 at close to max. I've tried Aframes, Partitions, Hunting BT's, Hornady Spire Points and Interlocks, and a few others and the only ones I could never get to shoot well were the Barnes in my H&H and in my 338 for that matter. Nothing really wrong with that as I've had excellent on game results with Noslers and Aframes- not quite as much with the Hornadies- but the accuracy has always been superb ...

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Originally Posted by dennisinaz
When Barnes went away from the flat base bullets I could never get them to shoot. I never did get any Barnes bullets to shoot in my 340 Wby. I'll bet Randy Brooks gave me 300 bullets trying to find something to work. Just never happened.

I am loading up a bunch of X bullets in my 458 Lott. We'll see how they do. Maybe they will over penetrate!


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I use 200 Grain Nosler partitions and H4831.
I have a tight chamber on my custom Mauser, and I also have a 27" barrel so I load about 1 grain under listed max, but my chronograph shows I am getting 2865 FPS average.
These loads do all I could ask for from any 300 mag on every game animal I have used it for. Very accurate, fly well to the maximum distanced I will shoot game, and kill very well, giving good sized wound channels and exits.

Personally I have no reason to try anything else.

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Originally Posted by gunner500
200 gn Sierra BTHP and 72 gns. H-4831 SC and lite it w/ a Fed. 215GM primer, start about 10 thou. off.

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How does your brass hold up with that load? I have a pre64 M70 that loves 71 gr H4831 with 200 gr Partitions but primer pockets start to loosen up after a couple of firings so I've backed down to 70 gr.

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When Barnes went away from the flat base bullets I could never get them to shoot. I never did get any Barnes bullets to shoot in my 340 Wby. I'll bet Randy Brooks gave me 300 bullets trying to find something to work. Just never happened.

I am loading up a bunch of X bullets in my 458 Lott. We'll see how they do. Maybe they will over penetrate!


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I hope not but I have a half dozen boxes of 500 grain Barnes X bullets in 458 caliber. What else am I to do with them? I suspect they will work wonderful on buffalo and eland.


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Originally Posted by dennisinaz
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When Barnes went away from the flat base bullets I could never get them to shoot. I never did get any Barnes bullets to shoot in my 340 Wby. I'll bet Randy Brooks gave me 300 bullets trying to find something to work. Just never happened.

I am loading up a bunch of X bullets in my 458 Lott. We'll see how they do. Maybe they will over penetrate!


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I hope not but I have a half dozen boxes of 500 grain Barnes X bullets in 458 caliber. What else am I to do with them? I suspect they will work wonderful on buffalo and eland.


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I ended up loading 450 grain TSXs instead. I think at 2360 fps they will kill impalas...


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Originally Posted by Patrick_James
I found a lot of good data in Ken Waters pet load book.



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Originally Posted by JGray
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200 gn Sierra BTHP and 72 gns. H-4831 SC and lite it w/ a Fed. 215GM primer, start about 10 thou. off.

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How does your brass hold up with that load? I have a pre64 M70 that loves 71 gr H4831 with 200 gr Partitions but primer pockets start to loosen up after a couple of firings so I've backed down to 70 gr.


LOL, oops, old thread, I listed a book load of 72 grs H-4831 for the 200 gr Sierra BTHP because this is the long range hunting forum, I worked up that load for a bud many moons ago in his re-chambered Ruger #1, the 200 gr Sierra BTHP has much less bearing surface than the 200 gr Partitions, I use 70 grs H-4831 in my old 300 H&H's with the 200 gr NPT's in WW brass lit with FED-215's.

No problems with brass at that level, without my load book handy and IIRC, I use 67 gr H-4831 with the 220 gr NPT's for 2750 fps, a hell of a fun, accurate, and hard killing load through my pre-64 standard rifle with an old Lyman receiver sight, 200 yard animals and 300 yard steel is pure cake.


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Originally Posted by tdbob
63.0gr of R17, Fed215, WW brass and 180gr Partition (2nds from the Shooter's Pro Shop) has been very accurate in my M70XTR. I'll get just a bit over 3000fps with that load.


Exactly the load I use in my 300 WSM. Well, almost. Mine pushes the 168-gr TTSX at 3075.

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I shot 14 or 15 head of game with my 300 H&H the past 2 weeks. I used mostly 150 grain Partition golds behind N560 at 3260 fps. I also took a box of 150 TSX loaded over 74 grains of H4831 SC. I used them to cull hartebeests and too a warthog and gemsbok. All were pass-throughs.

Collected 3 bullets total. I shot an eland with a 450 grain Swift A-frame at 40 yards. DRT. The bullet didn't exit but the skinners didn't find my bullet (too lazy I guess).


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