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There are fiscal "lean gurus" as well.

They are the ones who convinced the Freedom Group management to close both the H&R and Marlin plants and roll them into the production capacity at Remington in Illion and Mayfield. That was most likely decided before both of those companies were even acquired.

Likely, those same tightfisted beancounters tried to squeeze a few more shekels by having less people do more work and underpaying line supervisors and other employees to the extent they quit.

The greedy bastards in upper management cannot get it through their thick skulls there are LIMITS to everything. You have to have ENOUGH workers to actually DO the work. And pay them well enough to do it well. In the end, it's cheaper to do it right the first time.

This will be a VERY expensive and bitter lesson for the management at Marlin/ Remington I hope they learn from it.

Sweet, a discussion about Marlins !!???!!??!

I'm not huge on plastic stocks - but that 'n' I could get to like.

How do have 'em chambered?

30/30 is the black one, the other two are the same rifle and it's a 357 Mag. Had a 35 but sold it, have a few 30/30's because hell, everyone should have one.

Crap, gotta run - like to pick your brain on the 30-30 (later).

Checked the Marlin website today. There was no notice there (news release etc)advising that they were ceasing operations.

this is the ones closed for 2011...

338MX 70492
338 MXLR 70493
444 70540
1895G 70462
1895CB 70480
1895XLR 70474
1894CB357 70440
1894CB44 70442
1894CB45 70444
1894CSS 70428
1894SS 70430
1894SBL 70432
1894CSBL 70433

Steelhead,

Are those Skinner sights on both rifles? I'm looking to replace the factory sights on a couple of my Marlins (1894CL in .32-20 and an 1894 .357 like yours) and was wondering about front sight height.

Ed

XS sights, I bought the 'combo' front/rear for the respective model and they work fine. I have XS on all the Marlins.

Good thing you shot that bastid Steelie..... looks like he was in somebodies collard patch...

George Soros does not control Cerberus (Freedom Group). This is a dumb internet rumor that keeps getting posted.

One thing has me puzzled.If Marlin is shutting down a line to address quality issues.Why would anyone want to rush out and buy one of those guns????

Well according to the information posted by Taffin, etc it was not JUST due to "quality issues" but also the loss of some key production personnel.

Besides, many of them work just fine.

The fact that Cerberus bought Marlin has more to with the rumor mongering about them than anything. As witnessed by some of the the patently FALSE information and conjecture being posts on this thread- ala Soros etc..

I can tell you this- ALL of the QC issues I have seen posted by folks on the Marlin forums, etc HAVE BEEN issues off and on in the past with Marlin guns made in New Haven going back to the 1970s at least. And they show their ignorance about the older guns and their bias by never mentioning that.

Crooked barrels, guns failing to feed properly, poor wood to metal fit, crooked sights, actions that feel like a handful of sand were thrown in them when brand new- ALL of those issues can be found on a percentage of guns that were shipped from new haven since the late 1970s. I do believe there is a higher percentage of those problems on the Remington built rifles, and that is what their management is trying to address.

Most New Haven made Marlins were great little guns. But some of them were not. And they were made mostly BEFORE the days of the internet. Today, a guy can electrically wail about getting a lemon to tens of thousands of people online 2 minutes after unboxing it without even calling customer service to even discuss it first..


And here is another fact- if you go through the Marlin Forums and actually read the shooter reviews of Recent made Marlin Levers, Centerfire and Rimfire bolt actions and the Semi Autos, most of the guys say the guns work just fine..

And yet- the sky is falling.

What a revoltin' development this is ...
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I was thinking of letting-go one of my Marlins, an 1895-GS Guide Gun, 45-70, I got years ago.

I'm thinking more clearly now!

I don't know WHAT in hell Cerebus/Remington is thinking ... They's scary!

Cerebus (Greek mythology), IS the 3-Headed Dog that guards the Gates Of Hell.

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Only RUGER can still save America.

So you are saying this should be over on the "Hunter's Campfire" forum?

Just sayen

If you can get a 450... get it.

I did some research and can't find George Soros as owning Cerberus. Some body needs to stop spreading rumors.

Well I like Marlin rifles, and I know a lot of other guys that do too. I wish them the best and hope they never give up.

On the flipside, there seems to be a lot of so-called "managers" in in business that don't know the first thing about how to manage anything, let alone manage people and a manufacturing organization. They have only their own interests at heart and suck the life from an organization with their inflated salaries and irresponsible actions. Employees are seen as liabilities, not assets. THE EMPLOYEES MAKE THE MONEY, and they should profit from it, not some rich day trader that sits on his ass in front of a computer and sucks the life from any company stupid enough to go public. I work with some very talented and intelligent people that make our products and they deserve better than the $12 dollars per hour poverty wage they make. We just had a CEO quit the company because times are bad, and the company was stupid enough to let him drag $2million with him when he left. I say good riddens! I think its time for MAJOR CHANGES in the way business is done in this country.

There's more to this story. Not sure what but something because I would have sworn they would spun this off as a separate IPO.

Zombies always come back. We need Marlin.

I may be mistaken, but I thought there was a Bloomberg Business Week article reporting that funding for Cerberus Capital Management came through Soros. In addition, there was some sort of suit involving Soros and Cerberus which alleged money laundering in their purchase of a building though Trump. These were probably the sources for a connection between Soros hedge funds and Cerberus.

Not sure if this is correct or not, and am not sure what motivations came to play beyond making profit, but Soros has made tons of money investing in all sorts of defense technology and fronting money to invest in firearms and ammunition would not be a shocker to me.

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