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I'd say pick the one that is easiest for you to understand. KJV won't get you into heaven, neither will the NIV.
It's kind of a stupid question to be honest but one that everyone has probably thought of at one time or another, and even asked themselves. Don't worry I'm not calling "burner" stupid.
The best way I ever heard it put is this:
If you're Spanish, get a bible that is written in spanish.
If you speak Swahili, get a bible that you can understand.
If you speak Russian, get yourself a bible written in Russian.
There was a time when everyone spoke the King's English and understood it perfectly. Sometime's it is easier for someone to understand the NIV better than the KJV. Maybe some others understand another version better than NIV. You get the point that I'm trying to make, find something that you understand and can read.
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Go get a Bible in a language you can understand, turn to John 3:16. Read it, the words are little and it is easy to understand. The rest is just fluff.
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Go get a Bible in a language you can understand, turn to John 3:16. Read it, the words are little and it is easy to understand. The rest is just perspective. There, fixed it fer ya! Ed
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I didn't read all 11 pages of posts, but in case this hasn't been said, the NASB is translated from the oldest manuscripts that we have in possession. I believe it is the most reliable because of that. The differences though between the KJV, NIV, NASB, ESV, etc. are mostly found in slight nuances of theology and not do affect the foundations of the Gospel.
BTW, the rest of the Bible other than John 3:16 is NOT fluff. It is only in the rest of the Bible that we find EXACTLY what that verse means.
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Thought that one should draw a reply. But if you think about it is is true.
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How many ways can love, faith, and salvation be translated?
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I like the NKJV myself, though I am not sure it is the "Most Accurate." Me, too. And what is "accurate" to one person might not be to another. I really like the Scofield reference bible in the NKJV. Scofield's notes and cross references sure have been a big help to me and I go ahead and see, as one bible teacher used to say, "what saith the scripture."
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The most accurate---- is the one in which you read and study!!!!!! God will reveal himself and give you the understanding in which you need if you first seek. The bible is the written WORD inspired by GOD by his chosen spokenmen to "his own". The best bible is one in which you USE and you feel you understand what God plan is for you. Although God desires a relationship with all his people, YOU are the most important to him in a PERSONAL relationship. Do not hung up on which map is the best,use the one you feel most comfortabe and get moving.
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How many ways can love, faith, and salvation be translated? Love, at least, is a translation problem because the Greek has 4 of them (3 found in the NT): agape (love of God), eros (romantic love), and philia (brotherly love). All 3 are translated as 'love' into English. That causes some problems understanding what's being said. BCBrien's precious Sceptic's Bible royally screws it up because the author doesn't know the difference. He uses agape and philia to make it sound like Christ and others are a homosexuals. What an idiot!!
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I prefer a "word for word" translation as opposed to a sentence translation or a paraphrase, by far. NASB, imo, is the most accurate, literal word for word translation one will find.
There are many English Bibles written 5-8 centuries ago that are fine, KJV being one of them, but there are problems. The main problem is their understanding of Greek at the time is not near what it is today. As more and more Koine Greek manuscripts were dug up (secular works) a better understanding of the literal meanings of individual words evolved. I think the older Bibles suffer because of that. Granted, they are for the most part subtle differences, but still differences.
I do have a big problem with the "KJV only" crowd demanding that it is the only proper Bible because it is the one Jesus read from. lol. Actually, I have a few big problems with accuracy of KJV. Primarily, in the 10 Commandments. KJV says "Thou shall not Kill". That is inaccurate. It should read "Thou shall not commit murder". Kill and murder do not have the same meaning. KJV supporters say "well everyone knows that it's talking about murder", but if the word is supposed to be "murder" and it says "kill", then that is an inaccuracy. That one inaccuracy leads many Christians to become extreme pacifist to a point God never intended in that Commandment.
There are other examples too.
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All bibles are versions of the 1611 King James Bible which was translated from the original text. One of my relatives was a member of the 40 person team that translated it. absolutely false. btw, if one thinks the KJV Bible was 100% accurate when produced and has had no revisions, google "he Bible, She Bible" for giggles.
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If you want to know what other folks OUGHT to be doing or not doing , just about any bible will tell you.
If you are interested in what YOU ought to do or say in a particular instance , ask Jesus.
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Go get a Bible in a language you can understand, turn to John 3:16. Read it, the words are little and it is easy to understand. The rest is just fluff. Actually, John 3:16 is half of a statement. The complete statement is John 3:16-17. "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him."
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To tell the truth I don't feel that I need a Bible. My personal walk is beyond that. hard to argue that kind of logic. and, earlier you said you follow the Bible, but, pardon me if I'm mistaken, but Ithought I read that you no longer attend church. If your personal walk was not "beyond that", you'd know that the Bible says "Do not forsake yoursevles the assembling together as is the habit of some......"
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Thanks guys for the insight. I have a KJV but had been struggling with it - not because I don't understand the language, but because it's a little harder to read for enjoyment. It's a lot more like reading Shakespeare in high school -- I get it, and I enjoy it, I just don't reach for it after a tough day at work when I want to read without having to really decode every word.
I'm not a Hebrew or Greek scholar -- although I did take 4 years of Latin. I think I will grab a NASB or similar, based on the recommendations. I appreciate it.
I didn't mean to ask a loaded question -- Ken's post about the changes to the KJV, and other things, got me thinking about it. I've seen quite a few Bibles that were "interpretations" and I just didn't want to spend hard-earned cash on one of them, as opposed to something that was truly a Bible based on documents, etc.
I do appreciate it!
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Go get a Bible in a language you can understand, turn to John 3:16. Read it, the words are little and it is easy to understand. The rest is just fluff. Actually, John 3:16 is half of a statement. The complete statement is John 3:16-17. "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him." The "Crux" of the whole deal, IMO. Good News, indeed.
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