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The 5x5 I shot last year with a 180gr Nosler Partition dropped like a went sack of chit. Same load dropped a mule deer at 403 yards the year before that. Plenty of power.
You can get factory loads that push 2900fps with 180gr bullets. That's not far off of 300 WSM factory fodder.
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Choose whatever floats your boat. Personally, I vote for the 300 WSM, but there's no wrong choice here. A dead elk is a dead elk.
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I tend to think of the 300 WSM as a 30-06 +P rather than as a true 30 caliber magnum.
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The 5x5 I shot last year with a 180gr Nosler Partition dropped like a went sack of chit. Same load dropped a mule deer at 403 yards the year before that. Plenty of power.
You can get factory loads that push 2900fps with 180gr bullets. That's not far off of 300 WSM factory fodder. +1 on that good ol buddy, still like the stock too by the way 
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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Hell, with my handloads that shot the best, my 300WSM is only shooting 180s at 2900fps!
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The 5x5 I shot last year with a 180gr Nosler Partition dropped like a went sack of chit. Same load dropped a mule deer at 403 yards the year before that. Plenty of power.
You can get factory loads that push 2900fps with 180gr bullets. That's not far off of 300 WSM factory fodder. ..........Factory 30-06 ammo that pushes the 180s at 2900 fps uh? Hmmmm. Do they also make 300 WSM factory ammo too? From Alliant...Max velocity using RL17 is 2762. From Hornady...Max velocity using their Superformance factory ammo is 2820. I`d like to know what brand or brands of 30-06 factory ammo, that can move any 180 gr bullet (on average) @ 2900 fps from the muzzle using a 24" barrel and what blend of powder that would be.
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Stick with the 06!
The 300WSM is a dandy but the Springfield is a far better cal overall, especially in a lighter package......
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Springfield is a caliber?
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The 5x5 I shot last year with a 180gr Nosler Partition dropped like a went sack of chit. Same load dropped a mule deer at 403 yards the year before that. Plenty of power.
You can get factory loads that push 2900fps with 180gr bullets. That's not far off of 300 WSM factory fodder. ..........Factory 30-06 ammo that pushes the 180s at 2900 fps uh? Hmmmm. Do they also make 300 WSM factory ammo too? From Alliant...Max velocity using RL17 is 2762. From Hornady...Max velocity using their Superformance factory ammo is 2820. I`d like to know what brand or brands of 30-06 factory ammo, that can move any 180 gr bullet (on average) @ 2900 fps from the muzzle using a 24" barrel and what blend of powder that would be. Federal Hi-Energy loaded with 180g Partitions has a listed MV of 2880fps. Actual from my rifle was right at 2900. Hornady also had a stout load in their "Light-Magnum" series that pushed at as well. I have no clue what powder it was.
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I was thinking "federal high energy" myself, I know the new ones arn't called that anymore, but......... If someone is going to squak over 20 fps they have more time and energy on their hands than I do.
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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If people are going to squawk over .007 inch difference between the 270 and 280, someone will definitely squawk about 20fps.
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If people are going to squawk over .007 inch difference between the 270 and 280, someone will definitely squawk about 20fps. You make a good point there. As a side note though I always thought the 280 was better  
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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Still tring to decide on cal. I keep thinking if I go with a .06, do I have the "knock down" power past 350 yards. I don't reload, so I would be stuck to factory loads.
... Provided the shoot in your rifle, I'd run a Federal 180g load - either AccuBond (P3006A1) or Trophy Bonded Tip (P3006TT4), with my preference being the faster Trophy Bonded load.
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A good .30-06 is a 99% solution.
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I love how everyone agrees they will both work perfectly, but the thread goes on and on- can we ever get enough of bull5hitting about chamberings? I think not.
My vote goes to the '06. Best in the world baby...best in the world.
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.......Similar to the Superformance ammo, Federal has got to be using a special powder blend to get 2880 or 2900 fps from the 30-06 using the 180s. If that`s the case, then that is pretty darn good.
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Good move in going with the Socko, I like the rig alot. They shoot well, handle well and the action feels real to me and not Mattell like. I realize a lot of people like the Montana but I just can't like how the action feels when I run it. Feels kind of like a Shovel Plus P to me (friend of mine calls the 700 a shovel).
I looked at a 84L Montana in 06 the other day and would way prefer a Socko, a M70 (push or crf) or a good Mauser to it any
day of the week..
And yeah the 06 will do you just fine at the longer ranges. IMO the 06 with a 168 will run in the low 29's and a 180 in the WSM will run in the mid 29's. And there just isn't much to a 12 grain diff by my way of thinking.
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![[Linked Image]](http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u49/Mark_Dobrenski/033.jpg) Taken last fall with my Mom's M70/06 and a 165 Horn @ 411 yds. Bull took two shots, stood around for a minute or so and pitched over. While I do feel a couple other rounds would of put it down about 37 seconds sooner dead is still dead.. Dober
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Good move in going with the Socko, I like the rig alot. They shoot well, handle well and the action feels real to me and not Mattell like. I realize a lot of people like the Montana but I just can't like how the action feels when I run it. Feels kind of like a Shovel Plus P to me (friend of mine calls the 700 a shovel).
I looked at a 84L Montana in 06 the other day and would way prefer a Socko, a M70 (push or crf) or a good Mauser to it any
day of the week..
And yeah the 06 will do you just fine at the longer ranges. IMO the 06 with a 168 will run in the low 29's and a 180 in the WSM will run in the mid 29's. And there just isn't much to a 12 grain diff by my way of thinking.
Dober Very nicely said, and coming from a guy (Mark D.) that uses both and loves both cartridges. Couldn't agree more....
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style. You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole. BSA MAGA
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