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Winchester Model 71 #5656562 09/26/11 Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 7,191 State of Confusion F fatjack34 OP Campfire Tracker OP fatjack34 Campfire Tracker F Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 7,191 State of Confusion Don't beat me too hard but here are a few observations from an unititiated Winchester Man: 1.) Model 71's are very, very good looking rifles...at least to my eye. 2.) Model 71's are very, very expensive to purchase on the open market. 3.) Did Model 71's come in any caliber other than .348WCF? 4.) I would like one very, very much! Kindness invites abuse du ma nhieu

Re: Winchester Model 71 fatjack34 #5656604 09/26/11 Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 6,467 B boltman Campfire Tracker boltman Campfire Tracker B Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 6,467 Over my last 35+ years of following M71's, I can say there were a couple made in .45/70 and a couple in .33 WCF - and I mean just a couple. These are highly collectable

Re: Winchester Model 71 fatjack34 #5656614 09/26/11 Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 4,046 L.I. N.Y. S sqweeler Campfire Tracker sqweeler Campfire Tracker S Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 4,046 L.I. N.Y. Most are 348 ,but a very few were made in 33 WCF.

Re: Winchester Model 71 sqweeler #5656628 09/26/11 Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 7,191 State of Confusion F fatjack34 OP Campfire Tracker OP fatjack34 Campfire Tracker F Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 7,191 State of Confusion rough estimate...not a top shelf collectible, but a decent serviceable 71 that a fella would be able to shoot and hunt without puking at the money he is toting....price? Kindness invites abuse du ma nhieu

Re: Winchester Model 71 fatjack34 #5656659 09/26/11 Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 1,551 Whitebird Campfire Regular Whitebird Campfire Regular Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 1,551 Originally Posted by fatjack34 Don't beat me too hard but here are a few observations from an unititiated Winchester Man: 1.) Model 71's are very, very good looking rifles...at least to my eye. You have a good eye! 2.) Model 71's are very, very expensive to purchase on the open market. Yes they are. Original condition bring good money, Deluxe original bring better money, Original carbines bring crazy money. 3.) Did Model 71's come in any caliber other than .348WCF? Generally speaking yes. I have heard of other calibers, but have not personally seen one. 4.) I would like one very, very much! How much are you willing to pay for one?

Re: Winchester Model 71 Whitebird #5656764 09/26/11 Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 13,000 Oregon O Oregon45 Campfire Outfitter Oregon45 Campfire Outfitter O Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 13,000 Oregon I've seen more than a few under $1000. Shop locally, and forget the auction sites and you'll find a 71 with a price more to your liking. I passed on one for $699 just awhile back. It had a few extra holes d&t'd into the receiver for a (missing) scope base and had been cut for a pad which was hard as a rock and falling apart ("Redhead" brand, gives you an idea how long it had been on there). Lots of finish wear but a clean bore and strong lockup. 71's are out there, just keep your eye's peeled and your wallet full.

Re: Winchester Model 71 Whitebird #5656779 09/26/11 Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 7,191 State of Confusion F fatjack34 OP Campfire Tracker OP fatjack34 Campfire Tracker F Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 7,191 State of Confusion Originally Posted by Whitebird How much are you willing to pay for one? That is a relative question...not a collector and not well read in this rifle...I know what I like, and I like what I see...3-5K is not what I want! Kindness invites abuse du ma nhieu

Re: Winchester Model 71 fatjack34 #5656851 09/26/11 Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 13,000 Oregon O Oregon45 Campfire Outfitter Oregon45 Campfire Outfitter O Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 13,000 Oregon $3-5k? Really? Where?

Re: Winchester Model 71 fatjack34 #5656876 09/26/11 Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 1,551 Whitebird Campfire Regular Whitebird Campfire Regular Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 1,551 Originally Posted by fatjack34 Originally Posted by Whitebird How much are you willing to pay for one? That is a relative question...not a collector and not well read in this rifle...I know what I like, and I like what I see...3-5K is not what I want! They are very nice rifles, everyone has their own idea as to what they want. Here is one of mine. First year production deluxe model with a bolt peep.

Re: Winchester Model 71 Whitebird #5656974 09/26/11 Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 7,191 State of Confusion F fatjack34 OP Campfire Tracker OP fatjack34 Campfire Tracker F Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 7,191 State of Confusion Originally Posted by Whitebird Originally Posted by fatjack34 Originally Posted by Whitebird How much are you willing to pay for one? That is a relative question...not a collector and not well read in this rifle...I know what I like, and I like what I see...3-5K is not what I want! They are very nice rifles, everyone has their own idea as to what they want. Here is one of mine. First year production deluxe model with a bolt peep. I will go by a picture alone and give you 500 sight unseen..... Kindness invites abuse du ma nhieu

Re: Winchester Model 71 fatjack34 #5656982 09/26/11 Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 6,204 Winchester ID K kenster99 Campfire Tracker kenster99 Campfire Tracker K Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 6,204 Winchester ID Abuddy of mine has one, first year dlux with peep, about 95%. Ser. # is 104 ! He wants $3800.00

Re: Winchester Model 71 kenster99 #5656995 09/26/11 Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 7,191 State of Confusion F fatjack34 OP Campfire Tracker OP fatjack34 Campfire Tracker F Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 7,191 State of Confusion ahhhhh yaaaaa....I guess this is what I am talking about and quite afraid of...my "want" will not be funded by my "need" . I can't swing that...no way. I want to shoot it, enjoy it and not schart my pants if a rain drop hits it....I am what I am. Kindness invites abuse du ma nhieu

Re: Winchester Model 71 fatjack34 #5657021 09/26/11 Joined: May 2003 Posts: 23,024 SW Montana V VarmintGuy Campfire Ranger VarmintGuy Campfire Ranger V Joined: May 2003 Posts: 23,024 SW Montana Fatjack: At the risk of being "escorted" off this brand new and wonderful forum subsection, I need to mention the Browning "clones" of the original Winchester Model 71's. I have friends who use them for black timber Elk stalking in snow with good success! I have seen certain lesser models of these Browning clones, in good condition, at gunshows for 700'ish. Just a thought. I often rue the day I decided to trade of all my lever Winchesters and turned all my Model 71's into Model 70's. I wish I had a few of them back. Hold into the wind VarmintGuy

Re: Winchester Model 71 VarmintGuy #5657380 09/27/11 Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 9,100 new hampshire L Loggah Campfire Outfitter Loggah Campfire Outfitter L Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 9,100 new hampshire John, I have had over a dozen 71's ,and i still have several left ,great rifles i let a friend of mine borrow one and he took a 800 lb bull moose at 75 yards ,bang, flop!!!! i don't believe you will find one for less then $1000 unless its beat to hell!!

Re: Winchester Model 71 Loggah #5657658 09/27/11 Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 6,204 Winchester ID K kenster99 Campfire Tracker kenster99 Campfire Tracker K Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 6,204 Winchester ID Yeah, to find one under a $1000.00 would be pretty much impossible! Almost.Got this at a yard sale for half that.

Re: Winchester Model 71 kenster99 #5658013 09/27/11 Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 23,083 Annapolis, Md. G gnoahhh Campfire Ranger gnoahhh Campfire Ranger G Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 23,083 Annapolis, Md. I said it before, and I'll say it again. I'm gonna start following Kenster around to those yard sales of his! My M71 is one of the few guns out of all the ones I've sold/traded off over the years that I truly wish I had back. A real "mule killer" at both ends of the gun! "You can lead a man to logic, but you cannot make him think." Joe Harz "Always certain, often right." Keith McCafferty

Re: Winchester Model 71 gnoahhh #5658247 09/27/11 Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 6,467 B boltman Campfire Tracker boltman Campfire Tracker B Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 6,467 The M71 is just a bit too modern for me. I prefer the .33 WCF and have five 86's and two Marlin M1895's in that caliber. I load my own ammo of course

Re: Winchester Model 71 kenster99 #5659180 09/27/11 Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 9,100 new hampshire L Loggah Campfire Outfitter Loggah Campfire Outfitter L Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 9,100 new hampshire Ken, Maybe you can find them in California for $500 , But you wont find any in Northern New England that cheap !!!!! Don

Re: Winchester Model 71 Loggah #5659515 09/27/11 Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 7,191 State of Confusion F fatjack34 OP Campfire Tracker OP fatjack34 Campfire Tracker F Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 7,191 State of Confusion Originally Posted by Loggah Ken, Maybe you can find them in California for $500 , But you wont find any in Northern New England that cheap !!!!! Don Don, I recall seeing a few go at Devine's Amoskeag Auction...pretty steep as I look back if memory serves me...and that was before buyers premiums and attitude! Kindness invites abuse du ma nhieu

Re: Winchester Model 71 fatjack34 #5659989 09/27/11 Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 4,338 Michigan Phil99 Campfire Tracker Phil99 Campfire Tracker Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 4,338 Michigan I gave $700 for mine about 8-10 years ago, and it's the last decent one I've seen for under a grand. It's a standard model with about 85% condition, no extra holes and no alterations. Seems like any 71 I see lately has multiple problems AND a high price tag. If you can find one, though, they are slick,smooth-shooting rifles, and a joy to own. Rod ***************************************** Hunting FOR Savages, Hunting WITH Savages

Re: Winchester Model 71 Phil99 #5659998 09/27/11 Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 6,467 B boltman Campfire Tracker boltman Campfire Tracker B Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 6,467 Again, I'll say they have little over a .33 WCF but of course, try to find a decent and unaltered one of those for under a grand.

Re: Winchester Model 71 Phil99 #5660025 09/27/11 Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 6,204 Winchester ID K kenster99 Campfire Tracker kenster99 Campfire Tracker K Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 6,204 Winchester ID I knew the owner of the" yard sale 71"for 40 + years. He wouldnt part with it when I first saw it probably 30 years ago. He didnt have any firearms out, but when I asked him if he had any guns for sale,he stated, "i got an ol winchester 348" which I had remembered. Then said, "whats it worth to ya"? I told him $500.00, and he couldnt get into the house fast enough to retrieve it!! I am looking at a 1986 round barrel 45-90 for sale now, that seems kinda cool. Not exactly a "yard sale" price though!

Re: Winchester Model 71 kenster99 #5660117 09/27/11 Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 5,087 Northwest Iowa T trouthunterdj Campfire Tracker trouthunterdj Campfire Tracker T Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 5,087 Northwest Iowa Those 71's are extremely cool! I love the fact they are a 86 action. ddj Many men go fishing all their lives without knowing that it is not fish they are after. - Henry David Thoreau The best part of hunting and fishing was the thinking about going and the talking about it after you got back. - Robert Ruark

Re: Winchester Model 71 Phil99 #5660121 09/27/11 Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 3,168 Wisconsin - Land of the PACKER... R reelman Campfire Tracker reelman Campfire Tracker R Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 3,168 Wisconsin - Land of the PACKER... As for collecting M71's how many different models were there? If I remember correctly there is a standard and a deluxe and a standard length and a "carbine" so are there only 4 variations needed to complete a collection? Of course not counting the one off's like 33Win and 45/70's.

Re: Winchester Model 71 reelman #5660510 09/28/11 Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 6,467 B boltman Campfire Tracker boltman Campfire Tracker B Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 6,467 A variant is long tang and short tang versions with the long tang being the earlier and more collectable versions. With or without bolt peep is a factor too. And then the presence of how many factors at once. Most desirable: long tang deluxe carbine with bolt peep.

Re: Winchester Model 71 reelman #5660513 09/28/11 Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 9,100 new hampshire L Loggah Campfire Outfitter Loggah Campfire Outfitter L Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 9,100 new hampshire There were a few special order ones also,but 4 standard models in 348 cal,a few in ,33 cal,45-70 , and i just heard of 1 in 45-90 recently .I have seen one that was factory engraved by one of the Kusmit brothers,i think it was Nick if i remember right.heres a picture of some 71's in a cabinet along with some 1895s and 1886,s Don Last edited by Loggah; 09/28/11.

Re: Winchester Model 71 Loggah #5662351 09/28/11 Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 6,467 B boltman Campfire Tracker boltman Campfire Tracker B Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 6,467 Don - some very nice pieces in that cabinet And man, to learn that a M71 .45/90 is out there somewhere. That would really be something to have If you find anything more out about it - let me know

Re: Winchester Model 71 boltman #5662461 09/28/11 Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 7,191 State of Confusion F fatjack34 OP Campfire Tracker OP fatjack34 Campfire Tracker F Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 7,191 State of Confusion You birds are in cahoots! Kindness invites abuse du ma nhieu

Re: Winchester Model 71 fatjack34 #5662826 09/28/11 Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 22,274 Back in Texas, for good! tex_n_cal Campfire Ranger tex_n_cal Campfire Ranger Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 22,274 Back in Texas, for good! I've also always wanted a M71 deluxe, preferably with a Lyman Receiver sight. Never have found one that was in both reasonable condition, and reasonably priced "...the designer of the .270 Ingwe cartridge!..."

Re: Winchester Model 71 tex_n_cal #5663632 09/29/11 Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 9,100 new hampshire L Loggah Campfire Outfitter Loggah Campfire Outfitter L Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 9,100 new hampshire I have to wonder how many model 71's have been rechambered into 450 Alaskan and others. I see them fairly often on the auction sites. Don

Re: Winchester Model 71 Loggah #5665076 09/29/11 Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 31 P paleoman Campfire Greenhorn paleoman Campfire Greenhorn P Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 31 Couple of pic's of my 71, made in the early 50's I believe. Attached Images Win 71 a.jpg (22.59 KB, 395 downloads) win 71 d.jpg (29.76 KB, 125 downloads)

Re: Winchester Model 71 paleoman #5665120 09/29/11 Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 9,100 new hampshire L Loggah Campfire Outfitter Loggah Campfire Outfitter L Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 9,100 new hampshire paleoman, That rifle has a real nice custom piece of wood on it !! Don

Re: Winchester Model 71 Loggah #5666986 09/30/11 Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 6,284 Downeast NC Odessa Campfire Tracker Odessa Campfire Tracker Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 6,284 Downeast NC Eleven years ago - a M71 I used to own. One of the sanest, surest, and most generous joys of life comes from being happy over the good fortune of others. Archibald Rutledge

Re: Winchester Model 71 Odessa #5666996 09/30/11 Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 9,100 new hampshire L Loggah Campfire Outfitter Loggah Campfire Outfitter L Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 9,100 new hampshire I never thought of a model 71 as a guard rifle !!! must be something real private behind that sign !! Don

Re: Winchester Model 71 Loggah #5667022 09/30/11 Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 6,284 Downeast NC Odessa Campfire Tracker Odessa Campfire Tracker Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 6,284 Downeast NC Kind of funny isn't it! Actually the city owns the right of way due to their sewer lines being routed through the property towards the treatment plant, we have the hunting rights. They built a very nice bridge over a deep creek a couple of years ago to get their trucks down to the line junction at the end of that road - sure nice for us to have gates, roads, and bridges maintained by the city without having to invest the time, labor, and money to maintain them. One of the sanest, surest, and most generous joys of life comes from being happy over the good fortune of others. Archibald Rutledge

Re: Winchester Model 71 Loggah #5668517 09/30/11 Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 31 P paleoman Campfire Greenhorn paleoman Campfire Greenhorn P Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 31 Wondering Loggah if the factory ever mfg. any with high grade wood like that?

Re: Winchester Model 71 fatjack34 #5668531 09/30/11 Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 4,338 Michigan Phil99 Campfire Tracker Phil99 Campfire Tracker Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 4,338 Michigan By the way, earlier today I listed a nice set of RCBS .348 WIN dies in the classifieds. Rod ***************************************** Hunting FOR Savages, Hunting WITH Savages

Re: Winchester Model 71 Loggah #5668647 09/30/11 Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 31 P paleoman Campfire Greenhorn paleoman Campfire Greenhorn P Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 31 Wondering Loggah if the factory ever mfg. any with high grade wood like that?

Re: Winchester Model 71 Odessa #5668670 09/30/11 Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 7,191 State of Confusion F fatjack34 OP Campfire Tracker OP fatjack34 Campfire Tracker F Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 7,191 State of Confusion Originally Posted by Odessa Kind of funny isn't it! Actually the city owns the right of way due to their sewer lines being routed through the property towards the treatment plant, we have the hunting rights. They built a very nice bridge over a deep creek a couple of years ago to get their trucks down to the line junction at the end of that road - sure nice for us to have gates, roads, and bridges maintained by the city without having to invest the time, labor, and money to maintain them. I like the outfit! Bordeline old school cool. *****You got out a full bird...really? Kindness invites abuse du ma nhieu

Re: Winchester Model 71 fatjack34 #5668928 09/30/11 Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 6,467 B boltman Campfire Tracker boltman Campfire Tracker B Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 6,467 The photo doesn't pop up for me

Re: Winchester Model 71 paleoman #5668929 09/30/11 Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 9,100 new hampshire L Loggah Campfire Outfitter Loggah Campfire Outfitter L Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 9,100 new hampshire The factory made a few with higher grade wood, damned few tho. Don

Re: Winchester Model 71 Loggah #5669393 09/30/11 Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 22,274 Back in Texas, for good! tex_n_cal Campfire Ranger tex_n_cal Campfire Ranger Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 22,274 Back in Texas, for good! I recall seeing a 71 on GB a few years ago, with figured original wood - it brought over $3k, IIRC "...the designer of the .270 Ingwe cartridge!..."

Re: Winchester Model 71 tex_n_cal #5669402 09/30/11 Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 22,274 Back in Texas, for good! tex_n_cal Campfire Ranger tex_n_cal Campfire Ranger Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 22,274 Back in Texas, for good! One of my more pleasant memories at the range a few years ago came when I was shooting next to a guy with a 71 Deluxe. I had a Stevens 44 1/2 in .32-40. After talking a while we took turns shooting each other's guns. On the first try with his 71, I nailed the X at 100 yards. The owner was astonished, and quickly told me it wasn't for sale! "...the designer of the .270 Ingwe cartridge!..."

Re: Winchester Model 71 tex_n_cal #5672565 10/02/11 Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 51 New Hampshire K KevinK Campfire Greenhorn KevinK Campfire Greenhorn K Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 51 New Hampshire Middle 2 are Short Tang Deluxes.... Bottom is a 1937 Long Tang Standard...my favorite.... I read the occasional $500 dollar 71 but here in the northeast they go for 2500/3500 for mint short tangs and a mint 1st year 98% sold for $4600 Ones with "extra holes go for 1300 to dealers asking 1700.... Can't wait for thee first week in Maine this year....then back to NH

Re: Winchester Model 71 KevinK #5672597 10/02/11 Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 6,467 B boltman Campfire Tracker boltman Campfire Tracker B Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 6,467 By the way, that looks like a real early Marlin M1895 .45/70? Maybe made in the 1960's? I recall when I was young I stared at the image of that rifle in a Marlin catalog I kept close at hand.

Re: Winchester Model 71 boltman #5672658 10/02/11 Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 51 New Hampshire K KevinK Campfire Greenhorn KevinK Campfire Greenhorn K Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 51 New Hampshire Boltman......not sure of the year but it is a pre-cross bolt in 45-70 with pretty nice wood and a Lyman receiver site...I have someone interested but am not sure I will sell it.....k

Re: Winchester Model 71 KevinK #5672704 10/02/11 Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 51 New Hampshire K KevinK Campfire Greenhorn KevinK Campfire Greenhorn K Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 51 New Hampshire Well I had to know.......first two digits are 25....= 1975 8 digits total......right?

Re: Winchester Model 71 KevinK #5674465 10/02/11 Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 909 Massa2shits K klondike_mike Campfire Regular klondike_mike Campfire Regular K Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 909 Massa2shits Yup. Subtract the first two digits of the serial number from 100 to get the year of manufacture. It should have a Micro-Groove barrel. IIRC it should be one of the latest ones produced with the straight grip. They went to the pistol grip configuration in the middle seventies and changed the model number to 1895S. (S for Sporter.) Oh, and very nice collection you have there. Mike Leave the gun, take the canolis.

Re: Winchester Model 71 klondike_mike #5674895 10/03/11 Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 51 New Hampshire K KevinK Campfire Greenhorn KevinK Campfire Greenhorn K Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 51 New Hampshire Just 1895.......no S.....how do you tell if its a micro groove barrel?

Re: Winchester Model 71 KevinK #5675007 10/03/11 Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 6,467 B boltman Campfire Tracker boltman Campfire Tracker B Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 6,467 IIRC the microgroove barrels were stamped, "microgroove."

Re: Winchester Model 71 boltman #5676224 10/03/11 Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 51 New Hampshire K KevinK Campfire Greenhorn KevinK Campfire Greenhorn K Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 51 New Hampshire no micro groove roll mark

Re: Winchester Model 71 boltman #5679280 10/04/11 Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 693 western PA B balltownbob Campfire Regular balltownbob Campfire Regular B Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 693 western PA Originally Posted by boltman A variant is long tang and short tang versions with the long tang being the earlier and more collectable versions. With or without bolt peep is a factor too. And then the presence of how many factors at once. Most desirable: long tang deluxe carbine with bolt peep. I'v seen fewer Standard carbines than Deluxe carbines....My carbine is a short tang Deluxe (circa 1946) w/bolt peep...strong 95% and glad I bought it when I did.... Life's too short to smoke cheap cigars....