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I'm with you sir.
I wish the Rep primary was next week, so they had an entire year to assure that Barry is a one term POTUS.

My greatest fear is that with all the sniping and sideshows, politicians running without even saying they are..or not

that come Nov 2012, we wake up in shock again!
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Originally Posted by plainsman456
Wonder how many folks know what the word means.
Just like [bleep]


Interesting reference on wrong assumptions about the meaning and origin of the word "[bleep]".

PCness is a real pain in the neck.


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I do not know about Texas but in the Pacific Northwest it is a logging term.


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Originally Posted by Savage_99
I don't agree Smokepole. But I hope that your right.

Here in the North East you never hear that adjective used. It would seem low class or insulting to a negro to use it.

Thus if your not from the NE you may not understand.



Bullschit.

The word is heard fairly frequently in the Northeast. Lived there, heard it. Try slate quarries for a sidetrip from "LaLa Land" some time.

The fact is, the adjective is still used, and it's still on maps up there, too.





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There are actual legitimate problems with Perry without reaching for ridiculous crap like this.. It seems to be more of someone trying to gotcha Cain by saying he played the race card, than Perry. I'd like to hear the entire context of any of these supposed racecard remarks by Cain.

Maybe he did actually play the card & maybe not. If so it was a bonehead mistake & needs to be addressed.


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Originally Posted by oulufinn
There are actual legitimate problems with Perry without reaching for ridiculous crap like this.. It seems to be more of someone trying to gotcha Cain by saying he played the race card, than Perry. I'd like to hear the entire context of any of these supposed racecard remarks by Cain.

Maybe he did actually play the card & maybe not. If so it was a bonehead mistake & needs to be addressed.


Yes that's right but when was the last time you didn't see the D's use the race card when it was so handy?


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In old VT a [bleep] was the set of logs that one set up to place the logs being transported on the sled, wagon or truck. The name comes from Great Britain according to my deceased grandfather.


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Same as the Pac NW.


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from the Oxford English Dictionary

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ˈ[bleep]

Also [bleep]-head, [bleep] head.

1. a.1.a N. Amer. (See quot. 1859.) Also, N.Z., the tussocks formed in swampy ground by species of Carex, esp. C. secta.

���1859 Bartlett Dict. Amer., [bleep]-Heads, the tussocks or knotted masses of the roots of sedges and ferns projecting above the wet surface of a swamp. ���1873 Routledge's Young Gentlm. Mag. Mar. 236/2 Stepping from one flax⁓bush or [bleep]-head to the other. ���1882 T. H. Potts Out in Open 76 Penetrating the dead massy root of an old plant of [bleep]-head (carex virgata). ���1904 J. Lynch Three Yrs. Klondike 41 We plunged into a mire of muddy water and �[bleep]-heads�. �[bleep]-heads� are detachments of dark moss about a foot in diameter, lifting their heads just above the water or marshy subsoil. ���1910 R. W. Service Ballads of Cheechako 19 And there was the little lone moose trail.‥ By muskeg hollow and [bleep] it wandered endlessly. ���1921 H. Guthrie-Smith Tutira xii. 103 The outer edges of these marshes were rough with [bleep]'s-head (Carex secta). ���1947 J. H. Brown Outdoors Unlimited 314 The ptarmigan cackled in the manner of a Bronx cheer as it flew to a nearby [bleep]-head. ���1950 N.Z. Jrnl. Agric. Apr. 356/3 Excellent crops and pastures‥where before only [bleep]⁓heads, rushes, and swamp plants were flourishing. ���1958 P. Berton Klondike 44 The great clumps of grass �[bleep]⁓heads� that marked the mouth of Rabbit. ���1961 C. Vyvyan Arctic Adventure xxi. 126 We had to negotiate about a mile of open country across [bleep]-heads.

b.1.b U.S. A spherical prickly cactus belonging to the genera Ferocactus or Echinocactus.

���1877 H. C. Hodge Arizona 244 The kind [of cactus] commonly called the [bleep] head is round, of the size of a cabbage, and covered with large, crooked, catlike thorns. ���1881 [see barrel cactus]. ���1940 E. C. Jaeger Calif. Deserts (rev. ed.) 181 Closely allied to this is the Mohavean [bleep]. ���1966 E. Y. Dawson Cacti of Calif. 51 (heading) [bleep] Heads (Echinocactus polycephalus).

c.1.c U.S. The black-eyed Susan, Rudbeckia hirta, a yellow composite flower with a dark centre.

���1893 S. F. Price Flora of Warren County, Kentucky 15 Rudbeckia‥fulgida.‥ Cone flower. �[bleep]-head�. ���1931 W. N. Clute Common Names of Plants 45 A number of composites with yellow rays and dark centers are commonly known as [bleep], though the more polite term is black-eyed Susan. ���1966 Publ. Amer. Dial. Soc. 1964 xlii. 21 [bleep].‥ The black-eyed Susan (Rudbeckia hirta).

2.2 A rock, stone, lump of coral, etc.

���1847 H. Howe Hist. Coll. of Ohio 569 It was a saw mill, with a small pair of stones attached, made of boulders, or �[bleep] heads�, as they are commonly called. ���1876 J. Moresby Discov. New Guinea 3 A crowd of �[bleep] heads�, black points of coral rock, peep up in places. ���1877 Raymond Statist. Mines & Mining 56 The bowlders, composed of quartz, �[bleep] heads�, and micaceous schists, are not large. ���1885 in Amer. Speech (1961) XXXVI. 295 The term �[bleep] head� is used by the Kanawha miners to designate a hard, heavy, impure coal often resembling cannel. ���1886 Ann. Rep. Smithson. Inst. (1889) ii. 523 [bleep] head. (1) The black concretionary nodules found in granite; (2) Any hard, dark-colored rock weathering out into rounded nodules or bowlders; (3) Slaty rock associated with sandstone. ���1898 Morris Austral Eng., [bleep]⁓head. Name given in New Zealand to hard blackstones found at the Blue Spur and other mining districts. ���1901 Chambers's Jrnl. Sept. 634/1 He tightened his grip on the reins as he caught the dim outline of a treacherous [bleep]-head stone. ���1908 E. J. Banfield Confessions of Beachcomber i. ii. 57 Nothing was left of the big ship save some distorted fragments of iron jammed in among the [bleep]-heads of coral. ���1916 C. Sandburg Chicago Poems 41 A boy passes and throws a [bleep] that chips off the end of the nose [of a statue]. ���1948 E. N. Dick Dixie Frontier 4 Bears rolled �[bleep] head� stones over and ate the grubs and field mice. ���1956 M. L. West Gallows on Sand viii. 89 We moored the skiff to a [bleep], one of those jutting stumps of dead coral which are found all over the reefs, and which have the look of a frizzled skull on top of a stumpy neck.

3.3 = Negro-head 2. Also attrib.

���1843 J. Lumsden Amer. Memoranda (1844) 14 My next communication will probably contain full details of the methods adopted by the Virginian planters in the manufacturing of the [bleep]-head, ladies'-twist, [etc.]. ���1860 Nor' Wester (Red River Settlement) 28 June 4/5 After that I would smoke half a plug of �[bleep]-head tobacco�. ���1884 �Mark Twain� Huck. Finn xxi. 194 You borry'd store tobacco and paid back [bleep]-head. ���1893 J. A. Barry S. Brown's Bunyip, etc. 24 He‥had accepted as much strong �[bleep]�‥as would have stocked a tobacconist's shop. ���1894 Outing (U.S.) XXIV. 355/1 Cigarettes‥made of native grown tobacco or the rank cheap stuff called [bleep] twist. ���1936 Beaver Mar. 7/2 It is probably the lineal descendant of the [bleep]-head tobacco used in the Indian trade years ago, and as it came in ropes it was sold by the inch. ���1956 Crate & Williams We speak for Silent 3 Groceries�particularly tea and �[bleep]-head� (a trade-tobacco for smoking and chewing)�are his more necessary �luxuries�.

4.4 A variety of cowrie.

���1895 F. A. Steel Rowans x, Do you ever find [bleep] about here now?

5.5 U.S. slang. (See quot.)

���1872 Schele de Vere Americanisms 281 They were Democrats, and retorted upon violent Union men by calling them [bleep]. ���1946 W. S. Knickerbocker 20th Cent. English 149 [bleep].‥ After the Civil War it was used for a person in favor of full political equality for Negroes.

6.6 A type of fabric (see quot. 1950).

���1892�3 T. Eaton & Co. Catal. Fall & Winter 10/2 In the plain cloth jackets the materials are beavers, [bleep], serges and worsted. ���1950 �Mercury� Dict. Textile Terms 366/1 [bleep] Curl, a fancy dress cloth made from spiral yarn warp and mixture weft (cotton and wool).

7.7 (See quot.)

���1927 G. Bradford Gloss. Sea Terms 119/1 [bleep], a name for bollards, and sometimes applied to winch heads.


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Wonder if loggers will be upset when the PC crowd goes after loggerheads.
Folks sure have a time with common English language when it suits them.

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I still live in logging country and have not heard the term used in the last twenty of more years.


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Originally Posted by Savage_99
I don't agree Smokepole. But I hope that your right.

Here in the North East you never hear that adjective used. It would seem low class or insulting to a negro to use it.

Thus if your not from the NE you may not understand.



You misunderstood my post. I'm not defending the use of the term, and I fully comprehend that it's offensive. But as far as I understand it 1) it wasn't Perry's property and no one so far knows who wrote the term there; and 2) Perry's dad painted over it almost 30 years ago.

Maybe I'm missing something, but if those two things are true, it's much ado about nothing.



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What bothers me most about this witch hunt is the media giving 110% chasing down rumor and inuendo against the Republican candidates but stonewalled every question about "the chosen one". No honesty, no integrity, just irresponsible political pandering disguised as journalism.
Maybe the MSM will look into the derogatory slang Obama used 20 years ago when associating with radical anti-white, anti-American extremists.

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I have been living in the South for 60 years and have never heard that term used even once.

I've heard a lot of derogatory terms, both racial and just mean, directed at people that should not have been. I was always told to consider the source...


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Insensitive. To me, that is one of the very best words to describe a word that no doubt has many meanings, one of which is a racial term.

He didn't jump out of his skin crying "racist" as so many would and, the fact remains, the word is sensitive to many.

Good on Herman Cain for saying so little and refusing to take the bait put out by Amanpour.


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That word ain't THAT offensive to anybody. They just use it.

Example: A negro calls anybody, that ain't black, a honky, peckerwood, spic, coonass, yankee, sister-screwing pedophile and they respond "At least I'm not a [bleep]*r.", which one feels that they have a right to be angry?


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That ain't the way I read the transcript of the show.


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I should have reserved my comment until I did hear what was actually said..
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