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Oh, I will, ET, guaranteed, I will. Hope that Kurt helps you to get to the straight and narrow post haste. Isn't it great to have the resources and personal support available so the learning curve can be compressed? Were those not available, I'd still be trying to figure out what BP is and where it can be had .

Man, when I first got my original Sharps in 1994, there was almost NO pool of experience to speak of ESPECIALLY in the BIG cartridges!!! AND there was no "'Net" to speak of to acquire information that WAS out there!! Talk about re-inventing the wheel Musta gone through a ton of lead and nearly as much powder before I got the danged thing to see things my way(somewhat)

Otter was and remains a true gentleman showing the breeding and heritage of those reared in the honorable Cornhusker nation.




ET, we are still waiting:

- "...A 45/90 is a LOT easier to get right than a 44/90..." I really know nothing about the 44/90 but I am guessing that one of the first steps to "getting it right" would be, and I am just guessing here, but maybe,
SHOOTING THE DAMN THING!!





Johnny $

Pretty cool stuff, ET.

One of these days I need to watch somebody paper patch bullets who knows what they are doing. I dabbled with it on my Field's Patent .500-450 #1 Blackpowder Express, but it leaded up after 3 shots and I never was sure if it was bore condition, or my lack of savvy.

Great rifle and Cool round!, dont for get the 44/77, it and the 44/90 along with the 50/70 were the Buffalo rounds, in the 1st years of the Hunt! about 10 years ago I ordered a 44/77 from the Ballard rifle Co. I shot a nice 250lb Black Bear with it. wish I still had it. have to get back into the blackpower game one of these days Im thinking!

So were the 50/90, 45-110, 40-90 BN and the 45-70..

They are great rounds also, but came later in the game. I have taken alot of meat critters with the 45-70, I have owned about a dozen Shilo, and C. sharps, rifles, the Ballard and two Sharps Borchardts. starting to get the bug again! I took a 150lb bear with the last shilo Sharps i owned it was in 40-70ss

Well, I have only owned about a half dozen Shilohs myself.

And was a personal friend of Wolf Dreoge( Shiloh's founder). I live in Dodge City, KS (and know a bit about the history of the Buffalo hunting as well as Sharps cartridges ,myowself)

The 50/90 and 40/90 BN were pretty much there at the start.

The 45/70- due to the fact free ammunition was available from the Army, pretty much killed off the the 44/77 after 1875 or so. As did the .45 2/7/8 case to the 44/90.

A hell of a lot of Buffalo were killed in Texas and Wyoming/Montana from 1875 to 1880 and all those cartridges figured prominently in the slaughter.

And YES you are right- it IS an additction launching those big slugs downrange with Black powder!

Well you live there and I have just read books, guess we learn something every day, and YES they are fun, I have just used mine for bear and deer, i did shoot a buffalo but with a win. 1886 made in 1901, in 45-70, hope to shoot another one someday, maybe another campfire hunt! out the door to go Bowhunting!

Outside of cranking out a few at hunting camp to see if I could kill a deer or bear wid it, I hadta wait until yesterday to get actual range time. No.1:The cases fireformed A LOT. The shoulder moved forward and rounded into the gentle radius tht Kurt described. It did NOT contribute to gilt edged accuracy. However, I was shooting at the tiny little silouette in the upper left hand corner of a K5 at 100 yards and nailed it nicely. Group was about handsized and the little guy was zapped like a natural christian. I am gonna load up and shoot the rest of the cases in that 100 piece bag before I start to work up any really good loads. RCBS folks said they'd make me a neck size die. I am very pleased to note the rifle has a nice tight neck portion of the chamber. All I would need do is use heavier paper if it became necessary. I don't care to do that as I am working only about 2 mils under bore as it is. I am liking this boomstick A LOT!!!

Hey! Who you calling OLD there? Geezer!

Don't make me come up there and sort you out - cause I'll do!

(Is your house handicapped accessible? I have problems with my walker on stair steps...)






So you finally got around to doing some shooting. Were you using Kurt's loads or were you just fireforming?


Johnny $

Turned out ta be fireforming with full loads. I was using 90g of FFG Express and a 490 g PP slug. I think it is gonna get tried at 100 g next time out.