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Fixed have always seemed so much noticeably better than a variable on the same power, that that is why I went fixed in the first place. The fact that they seem to be sturdier and lighter is a bonus.
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You guys just might talk me into a FX3 yet for my 280 Ackley.
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Making a strong case for me too.
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The FX3 6x42 is super good. Just remember if you don't like a heavy duplex (standard offering), you'll have to send it back to Leupold to have it changed out.
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After seeing the pics through the lense of yours it looks like it would appeal to me. For some reason it looks slightly thinner than the HD I had in my 1.75-6 Leupold. Have to remember something JG and that is this is my favorite reticle in my 4200's and not because of that silly flashlight thingy either. ![[Linked Image]](http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r74/RDFinn/Bushnell3-2-1.jpg)
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If you happen to stumble on to an old Lyman All American, you might consider taking a chance on it. I have 2 leupold 6x's and it's clearer than either. Obvious down-side; not much in the way of warranties, but the image is nice
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While I am a Lyman scope fan those scopes are quite old. I have owned them in 4X, 6X and 10X since they first came out. I must have ten of them. In 1968 it seemed to rain the whole month of November in VT and my All American 4X leaked water and fogged up. I had another rifle in the camp. Lyman fixed it back then. Yes they all are sharp and clear. I just got another one that came on a used M88 Win. I use newer scopes for rough weather big game. The second rifle from the left was for sale in a shop here. As you can see it came with a Lyman 4X All American. It shoots fine with that old scope. It will just go from the safe to the range and back. [img] http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/811/dsc00090io7.jpg/[/img]
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Allways really liked the M8 6 x 36 Leupold and the 6x Burris for keeping things as simple as possible. Sometimes you don't need 6x either the old K4 Weaver on my M700 Classic in 8x57 sure made dead doe today on the SD BH opener. 80 yds the 4x worked just fine in the gray overcast and falling snow. Magnum Man
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I have owned them in 4X, 6X and 10X since they first came out. I must have ten of them.
Any 10x's with turrets that need a new home, dry climate, maybe?
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Tucsonan, Loved all the fixed 2.5 thru 12x, 24 too much, and the 10 was NOT quite as good as a 12x for the varmint shooting I was doing (included black birds to 200-300yds - common pest legal to shoot here). All others had a great balance for what I had the mounted on/application. Check out a 12x with top turret if you have not  On real small varmints, the 12 made the difference between eye strain or not, though that 12 then had a CPC.
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ive got a Leupold 6x36 on my go to rifle, a Kimber Montana in 260 Rem.....love it, would not hesitate to buy another.....
as far as a fixed 6 at close range, i smoked a running jackrabbit at 25 feet with one and carry mine into the timber alot.....aint worried bout it....
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I have a 10 X Lyman Super Targetspot with turrets on an old High Wall. I think I will keep that one! The 10X All American does not have turrets nor does the 6X. ![[Linked Image]](http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/1885/highwallf9bbc9916jg.jpg)
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Gentlemen, I recently bought two FX-III 6x42 Matte Wide Duplexes and had the Leupold Custom Shop put M1 elevation turrets on them. Mounted one on my Anschutz 1717D and one on a GA Precision Sporter in 7mm-08. All I can say, and I hate to say it, is that I'm still waiting to be impressed by anything about these scopes... fwiw, I wanted to be impressed by this combination... The scope on the Anschutz felt like it was pulling on my eye during sight in. Dunno what is wrong with that scope but it has been noted by everyone that has shouldered it. You have to make your shot in 3 or 4 seconds or you get extreme eye strain. And yes the reticle has been repeatedly focused to try and correct the problem. Even compared to an ancient Leupold 7.5x with a German No. 1 post and it was like night and day. The old scope was not as bright but it would not give you a headache either... In short it is going back to Leupold for a check up and then into the for sale section... The scope on the 7mm-08 is identical but does not display the same optical properties. That said it still has yet to wow me in any fashion... In short there are going to be two LNIB FX-IIIs available in the near future. I'm still waiting on the Alumina covers. ![[Linked Image]](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v473/MattinVa1/Picture025.jpg) Regards, Matt Garrett
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Leupolds are good scopes for hunters.
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There are fewer lenses in a fixed power scope which "theoretically" should mean they should be brighter cause each lense looses or lessens light transmission. That usually doesn't add up to something the eye can actually distinguish though. Something John Barsness stated not long ago and that is that manufacturers put more "R&D" into variable power scopes cause that's where the money is for them.
Talk to JGRaider who recently bought a 6x42 FX3 cause he had a chance to compare it side by side to a Zeiss Conquest and I believe he thought the FX3 was somewhat brighter than the Zeiss plus the fact that his Leupold had the heavy duplex reticle which helps more in low light than minor optical differences. I had a Leupold 1.75-6x32 with the heavy duplex reticle and despite the rather smallish objective lense size, that little scope was pretty good in low light. I am curious regards the heavy duplex vs the wide duplex as these two are the only ones available in the matte finish FX3, anyone know the reticule suspension at the center for the heavy duplex?
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I live in Northern Virginia & hunt locally as well as Western & Southern states & Canada. I have shot many deer, hogs, & Black Bear with a 6X42 Leupold. I prefer other scopes for long range work, but the 6X is versatile & dependable.
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I live in Northern Virginia & hunt locally as well as Western & Southern states & Canada. I have shot many deer, hogs, & Black Bear with a 6X42 Leupold. I prefer other scopes for long range work, but the 6X is versatile & dependable. I may have to give one a try. Ballistics match the LR Duplex quite well, and I don't anticipate needing capability beyond that. (FYI: sitting here over looking the Dulles toll road wishing I was in the woods).
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jimmyp, on the FX3 w/hd, from the top of the thick vertical post to where the crosswires intersect is app 4.5" @ 100 yds. The thickness of the thinner wire is 1 moa.
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I have the FX-3 with HD and a 4x32 Conquest. Been using the 4X mostly as of late. Its good to go for the longest shot I may take (250+or-) and the fixed power leaves you with one less thing to consider plus less movement for the deer to pick up on. The FX seems brighter but image is about the same to me.
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i found two of those 4x Conquests NIB at a local dealer and wanted one for a ML but after looking through it I felt the reticle might not be thick enough for low light work. Weren't exactly cheap either at $475. Might just go ahead and get a 3-9x40 Elite w/FireFly reticle.
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