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And you can bet your sweet bippy he'll NOT work to overturn Obamacare.. He'll just 'tweak' it... Exactly why he must be stopped.
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It's a shame. Looks like it will be Romney and I am not at all convinced he is the man for the job. Pretty much business and normal. And I do so want to vote FOR someone once in my lifetime. You and me both brother, you and me both.
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RomneyCare is a fair criticism of Romney. He's going to have problems with that, as he should. And I think he handled his recent answers about that poorly. A better answer would have been, "Part of the genius of the United States is that we can try experiments in the various states, and leverage the best results throughout the country. We did what we did with the best of intentions, and it did not work out as expected. We should put RomneyCare on the list of things we are definitely not going to do nationally."
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Some of you sound like the liberal media. Lots of monday morning quarterbacks. The guy has no experience as a politician, and standing in front of 20 cameras and 40 reporters shooting at you makes it hard to gather your thoughts. Obama can't gather his thoughts in front of a group of school kids.
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...Romney...he's the closest thing to the azzhole we have in the WH now...  ... +1. Yup. This is why he's likely to get it!
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...Romney...he's the closest thing to the azzhole we have in the WH now... ... There are things I don't like about Romney, but I strongly disagree with this statement. Obama's math lobes never seem to have developed. He seems incapable of any kind of critical thought that involves numbers. And he has no moral guide except getting and keeping power. Romney is the opposite. He is extremely rational. We may disagree on some points, but I am very confident that he will act in what he sees as the best interests of the country. You also have to realize that Presidents are put in place by coalitions of special interest groups. Once elected, the groups are more powerful than the President. The political parties are two of those interest groups, but their power has eroded substantially as they have been disintermediated by the internet. A single popular cause, such as the Arizona illegal alien suits, will directly draw large amounts of cash from all over the country.
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And you can bet your sweet bippy he'll NOT work to overturn Obamacare.. He'll just 'tweak' it... Exactly why he must be stopped. I don't think so. There are far to many negatives, like the entire bull, I mean bill, to tweak and Romney knows that. I believe he would work to annul the bill and then turn the duty of healthcare issues back to the states where they belong. That's what he's said when I've listened to him and it would be far to major of an issue to reneg on.
We may know the time Ben Carson lied, but does anyone know the time Hillary Clinton told the truth?
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RomneyCare is a fair criticism of Romney. He's going to have problems with that, as he should. And I think he handled his recent answers about that poorly. A better answer would have been, "Part of the genius of the United States is that we can try experiments in the various states, and leverage the best results throughout the country. We did what we did with the best of intentions, and it did not work out as expected. We should put RomneyCare on the list of things we are definitely not going to do nationally." I hope you are sending these suggestions to Romney, Denton. He could use some help. I'm not nearly as afraid of him as some on this site and believe the vehemence of many comes more from group-think than self-think. To lump him in with Obama reminds me of those that claimed there would be no difference between Obama and McCain in 2008. While McCain was far from ideal, Obama has been a disaster that will be with us for a long time to come.
We may know the time Ben Carson lied, but does anyone know the time Hillary Clinton told the truth?
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Obama's math lobes never seem to have developed. He seems incapable of any kind of critical thought that involves numbers... An astute observation and very true. It is because he is a lawyer, as are many or most politicians these days. This is not a knock on the legal profession, but it is a field that requires a high level of verbal ability and reasoning skills, and almost nothing quantitative or scientific. It is my understanding that all math has been eliminated from the LSAT and law school curricula. Of course there are always exceptions. Some years ago I heard that a judge in one of the southern districts (Steve NO's?) had a degree in math and paid a lot of attention to quantitative evidence. Consider that economic issues are perhaps the biggest challenge faced these days, and economics is almost entirely a quantitative field, an understanding of which requires much more than the ups and downs of percentages and graphs. And don't get me going on "creating jobs..." Paul
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I hope you are sending these suggestions to Romney, Denton. Well, I can make the suggestions....  Obama has been a disaster that will be with us for a long time to come. Indeed. But we will get over him. I wonder if we will get over the people who put him there.
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Ideal? Hell, he's not even competent. (I do understand your statement!  )
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Romney is the opposite. He is extremely rational. We may disagree on some points, but I am very confident that he will act in what he sees as the best interests of the country.
I'll respectfully suggest that you place too much faith in politicians. Politicians are like strippers in that they are all the same - they just look different.
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Well, I'd have to bow to your expertise on strippers. I really don't think all politicians are alike. For instance, I'm pretty good friends with the recently retired chairwoman of the Utah Republican Party. She's about as decent, honest, and well-motivated as anyone you'll meet. I can think of at least one politician I know who isn't that way. My experience is that politics is like a lot of other professions, some good apples, some rotten ones. Zerobama has certainly been at the wrong end of that spectrum.
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He's a lightweight.
Smug, arrogant and pompous will only get a guy so far. I think we're seeing the natural end result of that dynamic. It got Hussein to the White House. Of course, he was the left and MSM's "chosen one".
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It's a shame. Looks like it will be Romney and I am not at all convinced he is the man for the job. Pretty much business and normal. And I do so want to vote FOR someone once in my lifetime. You and me both brother, you and me both. Amen.
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It's all just entertainment for the masses. The truth of the matter is, whoever wins the Repubs vs. the Demos games has as much to do with the true direction this country goes in as does who wins the world series or the stanley cup. The truth is, there is a political/financial class in this country and they're bleeding the working class dry. The demos are just as war-mongering and just as much into big business as the repubs, and the repubs are just as much tax and spend and throw just as much socialistic pap to the masses as the demos.
They're just a couple of criminal gangs squabbling over the nation's coffers. They pretend to have a particular stance on hot-button social issues (ie gun control, abortion)in order to rally their supporters, but even that is nuanced according to regional demographics of their constituencies.
They control government and the media and they keep us entertained/arguing amongst ourselves (like sports fans) while they continue to bleed this nation dry. Yep. And, each faction has their own jester, to pander to the kooks in the crowd who don't like the standard plays. I.e., Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich. They play the same role within each party/faction, and keep the show rolling right along.
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Instead he says that it was a good idea that worked for Mass., but just isn't right for the rest of the country? That is a BS, I will say anything to get elected answer if I have ever heard one.
Seems like the Republicans continue to run out these weak, middle of the road candidates (Dole, McCain, etc. and now Romney) on the theory that they will appeal to the independents, thus bringing the presidency back to the repubs. They never cease to be surprised when this strategy fails time and time again. you would think they would learn, but they never do.
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I hope you are sending these suggestions to Romney, Denton. Well, I can make the suggestions.... Obama has been a disaster that will be with us for a long time to come. Indeed. But we will get over him. I wonder if we will get over the people who put him there. Denton, stop making sense will you? Been reading all of your posts on this thread and they pose a well-reasoned, facts based, no emotion analysis of the situation. thanks!
A good principle to guide me through life: “This is all I have come to expect, standard lackluster performance. Trust nothing, believe no one and realize it will only get worse…”
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Seems to me this country is heading down the road to disaster.
Question is, do we want to go a bit slower? That is all electing a McCain, Perry, or Romney will accomplish at this point.
Sorry to sound all "doom and gloom" and I don't want to be taken for an RP supporter, that is for certain! But I just don't see things really turning around in the US.
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All I want is the eloquence of Reagan, the limited government view of Jefferson, the historical understanding of Gingrich, the 2A zeal of Gura.... Somehow I can't seem to get all that in one person. I don't know why that is. Question is, do we want to go a bit slower? That is all electing a McCain, Perry, or Romney will accomplish at this point. The problem is that neither the President nor Congress runs the country. The direction we are going is a reflection of what we collectively are. I agree that we need a change of direction. But that will come from changing the people. I think that the Tea Party has given voice to some very constructive points of view: individual responsibility, less government, more freedom. To the extent those points of view prevail in the marketplace of ideas, dependency, big government and a multitude of laws are pushed aside.
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