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Whats going to be the best actual projectile on whitetail. I dont care for explosive expansion. The deer around here are not huge, figure 200# MAX, What i dont like is a runner. IN SC I hunt areas from 2.5 acres to 65 acres and everything from flat pastures to swamp. I can shoot and have a good knowledge of whitetail anatomy. I think my 10 year average has been about 85 yards. 440 being the longest shot and 12 paces the shortest. BBL is 19" MV range of 2000-2500.
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in my .375 Ultra (this years do-everything rifle) i've been shooting the 260 Nosler AB because of it's BC.
but the Steyr Pro-Hunter shoots the 270 TSX like a bench gun.
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i have a load for the PH with a 235 Speer that worked good accuracy wise. bullet seemed to expand a bit much close in. I was thinking about a GC cast at 2K MV since the barrel isnt tapered bore like the steyr.
Any experience with the 225 hornady when velocity gets down around 1700?
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In my 376Styer I use the 270 hornady at 2200fps.It shots accuratly and although I have'nt shot a deer with it yet every inantimate object I have hit with it reacted violantly.
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That is a 270 hrnady round nose
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The 225 Hornady, cranked as hard as you can make it move so that it simulates a 270 Winchester, is probably your best bet. 375 caliber bullets in the traditional weights may or may not give the rapid kills you desire on animals as light as deer.
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I've used the 235 speer, 260, 270, 285, 300 seem to knock them flying no matter what I used.
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Whatever cheap 300 or 270gr JSP shoots well in your rifle with modest velocity. It is just a soft, thin skinned deer. I'm sure the projectile will still exit and leave a nice, easy to follow blood trail. Not that the deer would go far if you do your part.
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+1 Although I have never shot a deer with the Speer 235gn I can't imagine the deer taking more than a few steps after being hit by one.
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I have used the Speer 235 at 2860 for many years. Kills clean, no meat destroyed - and most importantly - accurate!
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I've used the 220 gr. Hornady FP and the 235 gr Speer reduced loads for Whitetails, Pigs and Coyotes out of my 375 H&H; the ranges were short (nothing over 150 yds) and the results were terminal.
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I have been loading the Lyman 375449 cast with air cooled wheel weights sized .376" gas checked and lubed with White Label BAC, pushed to a little over 2K fps with 50 gr Varget in 375 Ruger 23" Afrikan model. Lit by WLRM primer for very low deviation. I can do moa but saw my brother put 5 out of 6 in a bughole. Performed perfectly on a doe at 25 yds a couple weeks ago.
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I have been loading the Lyman 375449 cast with air cooled wheel weights sized .376" gas checked and lubed with White Label BAC, pushed to a little over 2K fps with 50 gr Varget in 375 Ruger 23" Afrikan model. Lit by WLRM primer for very low deviation. I can do moa but saw my brother put 5 out of 6 in a bughole. Performed perfectly on a doe at 25 yds a couple weeks ago. Awesome. I guess there are no detonation concerns with such a low charge in the Ruger case? I'm guessing your case density is ~60% with 50gn of Varget and the shorter bullet? Perhaps the Varget is slow enough to not be of concern. Interesting.
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I took a mule deer doe in Colorado a couple weeks ago with a 235gr TSX out of my .375H&H at 80 to 90 yards. Hit high on the near side shoulder. Exited mid ribs on the far side. Took out both lungs. Ran about 15 yards before she piled up.
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I shoot a .375 Hawk with 235 Gr. Speers at 2775 in VERY heavy brush in S. Arkansas and S. Texas. That bullet kills DRT usually in their tracks or at most a few steps. I am sold.
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I based my powder choice on Hodgedon's use in 45-70 trapdoor loads, and Richard Lee's talk in Modern Reloading. Probably won't mess with jacketed bullets again until I get a chance at long range elk or go back to Africa or Alaska.
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If you're possibly going to be shooting at longer ranges, like you have in the past, I would consider the 260gr Accubond.
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I've used the 235 speer from an H&H on Impala and warthog at 2900 fps. It was accurate and put them right down but they did ruin some meat. The bullet did not exit the 225# warthog on a broadside behind the shoulder shot.
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