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Dyna Bore Coat and waxed bullets sounds like a marriage made in Heaven.

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Thanks John


My plan is to shoot it tomorrow as received from Cooper, with the HSM ammo and my scope mounted before using what is left of the bottle of DBC in the aluminum can.


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Did she shoot?


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Well

I ended up having to do things more important before flying to Rochester Sunday morning, still there, but if I get over the Jet lag I'll try and get a target with new holes this weekend.

I found some more brass ( ordered by phone yesterday) so if it shoots I'll be able to try to duplicate the HSM ammo, or load some suggestions from Friends :-)


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What's the cleanest shooting powder that works well in the 17 Remington? TAC? Varget?

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I bought a used Rem 700 Classic in .17 Rem about ten years ago and shot factory ammo. It was accurate for about twenty shots and then groups opened up very wide. I gave up and sold it. Today, with more knowledge of powders, coating and newer bullets, it probably would not be as much of a problem as it was for me then. I moved to the .223 AI, 20 Tactical and 20 Vartarg and never looked back. Sounds like maybe I should rethink the .17 calibers.

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DakotaDeer,

I'm not done experimenting yet, but so far Benchmark and Big Game look good in the newer powders.

TAC is a little fast for the .17 Remington, but perfect for the .17 Fireball.


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How about Varget? That should equal BG more or less in burning rate?

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Benchmark has smaller kernels than Varget, so flows a little better through the tiny neck--which is why I'm fooling around with Big Game. It looks to be the right burn-rate and is clean-burning, and flows real well out of a powder measure.

So far the results are very good, though they're also good with Benchmark.


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I've heard good things about Big Game from others when using 25 and especially 30 grain bullets like the Kindler Gold. I suppose I will have to try some, but my gun store won't stock Ramshot powders. I really want to get the 30 Kindlers working for this winter on coyotes.

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If you buy an 8-pound jug on the Internet, the hzamat fee isn't too bad, especially since Ramshot powders usually cost less than most other rifle powders.

I guarantee you'll find other uses for Big Game than the .17 Remington. It works very well in a bunch of cartridges, just about anywhere H414 or IMR4350 works, but it burns cleaner and is less temp-sensitive than 414, and since it's a ball powder measures a hell of a lot easier than IMR4350. I use it in at least dozen cartridges from the .22-250 to 9.3x62.


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How much do you think to fuel a 30 grain bullet?

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The 17 Rem. is a great round.
My recipe is 30gr Berger Bullets and Vihtavuori N540.
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Sorry, platform is a Remimgtom LVSF of course!
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Originally Posted by Mule Deer
If you buy an 8-pound jug on the Internet, the hzamat fee isn't too bad, especially since Ramshot powders usually cost less than most other rifle powders.

I guarantee you'll find other uses for Big Game than the .17 Remington. It works very well in a bunch of cartridges, just about anywhere H414 or IMR4350 works, but it burns cleaner and is less temp-sensitive than 414, and since it's a ball powder measures a hell of a lot easier than IMR4350. I use it in at least dozen cartridges from the .22-250 to 9.3x62.


You're going to force me to deviate from 4320...


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I'm not to sure I would deviate from 4320, especially pushing 25gr. pills. I will admit to using a lot of 8208 behind 25gr. bullets. I got real lucky and have a load with 4320 and one with 8208 that shoot to the same point of impact. That 8208 burns pretty clean too.
Big Game with 30gr. I've heard is a real winner and rates real high when using it in the 17-204, but me, I still use H414/W760 behind 30's. Guess I'm old fashion. blush

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You must like to clean!

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You must like to clean!


Granted, H414 is a bit dirty, but I have a lot of it and it is soooo accurate with the Nagel 30's. But, I don't generally shoot 30gr. out of my 17 Rem.
I don't find 8208 to be very dirty at all in my 17's using 25gr. bullets.

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DakotaDeer,

Sorry not to respond quicker, but missed your post.

Haven't tried Big Game with 30's yet, but have gone up to 25 grains with 25-grain Bergers with no problems, so would look at 23-24 with 30's.

Big Game is similar in burn rate to H414/W760, though of course it's not exactly the same and the relationship will vary with the cartridge. Ramshot should be able to provide you with some guidelines as well.


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Originally Posted by JamesW
I have owned a Tikka LSA55 in 17rem since 1981 and used to shoot fox's to supliment my income. In 1983 I had a Shillen Stainless barell fitted due to the original one wearing out (I think). In 1985 the fox skin market went south and this rifle was then only used occaisionally (less than 10 shots a year) until 2009 when I started to do some ferral animal control work.

This rifle has always been very accurate until the 16 shot mark, then it has to be cleaned. I have just put up with this for many years!

I have always reloaded with ww760 (26.5g I think!), cci br primers, remington cases and hornaday 25g hollow points. Yep all my stock is still from the early 1980's.

From some of the above posts it seems that the powder may be an issue. What power would be recomended now for the .17rem?

I have also had issues with brass splitting the necks after 3 to 4 reloads and now have enough 204ruger brass to resize and form into .17rem brass, I'm told this is a much better way to go.


Finally have the .17 shooting again and cleaned up 4 foxes on the weekend. The new load I settled on shoots to the same point as the old one above and now uses the following components;
Brass: Hornaday 204 ruger once fired. had to neck turn these as lowering the shoulder for the .17 caused a doughnut.
Powder: Benchmark 8208, 23g. 23.5 was flattening the primers too much, 24 pierced a primer!
Primer: The old CCI BR4's.
Projectile: Berger 25g hollow point. Waxed with Lee resizing lubricant.
Also used JB bore shine then bore bright.

Grouping consistently under 1/2" at 120m. (don't I just love being half metric & half imperial). Barrel is looking much cleaner. Tried to get hold of some DBC without any luck in Australia and the US shops won't ship over seas.

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