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....some of which give new meaning to the term the living dead.

No doubt.

Simple question, note I could care less what JOC would pick today for a rifle. My comment was JOC killed some nice sheep. Steelhead lived in Alaska, surely he killed some sheep while there.

You feel free to continue...

First and most obvious, in neither of your last two posts did you ask a question. In both you made statements.

Now I know some hunters in Alaska, that as of now have not killed Sheep and perhaps never will, nor may not ever attempt to do so. Some may like JOC, some may not and some may not give a chit.

I'm trying to keep it simple.

Geez not this again......who did he say that to? Can't recall....

Ok, I am going to try and say this real slow for you... I clearly asked Steelhead to oblige us with some pics of the sheep he had killed.

And, I could care less if you or people you know don't want to, or can't hunt sheep.

No you didn't ask. You "wished that Steelhead would oblige."

There is an old saying about wishing that perhaps you are familiar with.

Makes no difference if you care about the people I know from Ak.

However, I didn't say they didn't want to or can't. I did say, "that as of now have not killed Sheep and perhaps never will, nor may not ever attempt to do so."

The words are right there, what is so difficult?

+1

Thanks for the comic relief this evening!

Nope, been on 1/2 dozen goat hunts (sheep ain't got [bleep] on them), a few moose and 2 brown bear hunts.

I'd be curious to see what ringshitt has done in Alaska, tourist or otherwise.

Got off the plane there once coming back from OKINAWA. then back on and back to Sunny SC. Cant say i cared for it much. Seemed like a bit of a sausage-fest.
Perhaps thats your thing.

You reminded me of a cute little movie: Weekend at Bernie's, where 2 friends take him (corpse) out partying, even water skiing! Then I got back to thinking about: Isn't it a good thing to honor someone special, in this way?

At 68, I can say I grew up w/ Jack. His values meant something to me. Even after owning and loading many different calibers, I still think the .270 pre-'64 Featherweight is at the top of the list for an all-around medium size game rifle. It would make a sensational 1-gun battery and could easily replace both my .260 Rem and .30-06.

I believe I read it in his book. I will try and find it.

I have read most of what Jack wrote, and never read that statement. He did make that comment about the 30-06 though.

I remember reading that too. In regards to the good ol 30-06...

Funny, but very true.............Hb

The story about this got started in an article by Jim Carmichael.... when he was building a custom rifle with Clayton Nelson,the custom maker,Carmichael claimed that O'Connor told him to build a 280 instead of a 270,because the 280 was a better cartridge.

Did he say it? Who knows? Maybe he did....

280 admirers love to repeat the hearsay(no probative value),and accept it as gospel.But it runs counter to anything JOC ever wrote about the 280,and in print he felt the 280 held no advantage over a 270....he felt that what you could do with one you could do with the other.

And you will look high and low for evidence that JOC ever shot a single head of big game with the 280,despite building three of them(at the end of his career)....at least he never wrote about it.He certainly had ample opportunity as he was actively hunting when the 280 was introduced in the 50's....and the 7x64 Brenneke was available since the 20's.He could have used it, but didn't.....

OTOH he shot hundreds of BG animals with the 270 from moose and grizzly to Coues deer and African stuff.

So, really,there is no evidence that he thought the 280 was better.....just "stories".

I thought Townsend Whelen said that in his last years.

Who's Jack O'Conner? (grin)