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[quoteHere's mine, It's a 7X57[/quote]
Well, Terry, this is just getting better all the time. I have a real thing for this kind of rifle. What about your stock? What's the story on that?
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Terry, Ok, I stand corrected. I had a fellow in Europe ask for a stock for a ZG-47 and said it was a large ring. I told him it had to be a small ring because that how it is listed in Jerry Kuhnhausen's book "The Mauser Bolt Actions". Never heard back from him. I'll correct the entry in my copy of Kuhnhausen's book because a rifle in hand trumps a listing in a book any day. Thanks.
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TC, That Brno is a pretty little rifle.
Do any of you have experience with the Husqvarna rifles from Sarco? I've looked at them a couple of times, but do not know anyone who has purchased one.
"There are no dangerous weapons. There are only dangerous men." - Robert Heinlein
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Terry, since I'm learning new stuff today I have another question. I thought that firing pin pull knob on your picture of the 1910 Mexican was only made on the 1936 Mexican. Did the 1910's have them also?
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doesnt Sarco Inc carry alot of thos Husqvarna sporters? i think i remeber seeing they had quite a few in 8x57 and 9.3x57 Rattler, There was quite a bit of discussion about these rifles from Sarco on the board about two months ago. IIRC, they are all large ring actions, but that sure wouldn't deter me from buying a couple of them, especially in 9.3X57. Unfortunately, they will not ship to Canada or I would have a couple here by now. Ted
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There was a comment that Husqvarna made rifles on Brno actions; I have had Brnos in about every type they made as well as Husqvarnas in both FN and HVA actions. I have never seen or heard of a Husqvarna rifle built on a Brno action of any type as they made most of their own actions except the FNs and Mauser "Banner" commercial 98s that they used post WWII.
The one other maker that did use Brno actions was Parker-Hale for their "Hussar" model in the very late '50s-early '60s as we old geezers recall. This was the ZG-47 action which is a LARGE ring and I own these so this is more than "book larnin'".
As to Brno 21-22 series actions, I consider these to be the very finest commercial sporting actions ever made, period. I have sold off several of my guns recently, but, kept one minty 21H in 7x57 with the nicest wood I have ever seen on a Brno and a minty ZG-47 in .30-06. I have a 21H action with a Timney trigger, Argy 1909 bottom metal and will install a Recknagel Mod. 70 style safety; this will be barreled into a light 9.3x62 with a High Tech stock for my geezer-Grizzer gun.
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DickD: The 1910's did not have the Springfield type cocking piece. You can retrofit them. Here's my 1910... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />...6.5x55. I did the fitting & finish on the stock. Although did not checker it. Terry: I know what you are going through. Wish I could do it again. As with most things, nothing like having the first full blown custom done. Nice 7x57.
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Karnis, That is a beautiful rifle!!!!!!!!!!!!
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DickD, The cocking piece is a 1936 but, the action is a 1910.
Kuteney is correct I was thinking of the Hussar when I made the comment about the Husky's.
Expat, I've done buisness with Sarco. If they have small ring mausers I would make sure I knew what I was getting. M-93,95,96,98 etc.
TJM, both mine and ray's stock have been refinished, but they're still the same stocks the rifles came with. Ray uses an alkylne root dye and mine is an English red. If you'll go back to the post were I gave a link to one for sale on gunsamerica, that's how they look in thier stock form.
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Dick: I believe the VZ 33 is uncommon not common. It is the Brno action that Germans adopted as the G33/40, both small rings with milled lightening cuts below the stock line. I don't know if the VZ33 had hollow bolt knobs...anybody know?-- while G33/40s are around, you will pay through the nose for one.
Considering the price of the action and the work to do to it, the Brno 21 make more sense as said above.
The Husky is a 40 ounce action, too, like a G33/40, but not a true 98 (if your picky).
The FN Brownings small rings made for a few years in 243 and 308 are 37 ounce actions. But they are small ring, large thread like the Kars. They were made in the early 60s rather than the turn of the century so better metallugy. As a bonus they have a M-70 type trigger.
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Tom, Ok, I stand corrected again. Too tell you the truth most of my working with mauser actions was back in the late 60's and 70's, and I've forgotton a lot since then. It was simple then as most of these were available and cheap. If you wanted to build a standard rifle you bought a 1908 or 1909 rifle, and if you wanted a smaller lighter rifle you bought a VZ33 or a G33-40. Lots of these rifles in all the gun stores and pawn shops for a hundred bucks or less. I built one or two rifles a year, played with them and then sold them. The fun was in the building. I did the stock work and checkering and Parker Ackleys shop was just down the road in Salt Lake and they did all the metal work for me. But I haven't worked with a Mauser action for 30 years now. My tastes and hobbies have changed a bit and now I build my 1000 yd. Bench guns with Nesika Bay and BAT actions, but the real fun is still in the building.
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Things sure change in a few decades don't they? Gold was about 14 bucks an ounce IIRC...
How big of a shop did Ackley run, Dick? Did he represent the high end of things as a metalsmith at the time?
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Tom,
My bolt action book by the late Frank DeHaas says the HVA action is 32 ounces light. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
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Really?? I thought my weight figure came from DeHaas---does that include the bottom metal?
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Terry, Is that a mexican 36 bolt on your 1910?
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Guess what, Tom? You are indeed correct at 40 oz.! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" />
Damn, that's only 2 oz lighter than a 93 or 95! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> (Wider loading port and no boxy bolt stop? smooth gas sheild?)
This does not include the old style metal trigger guard. Although it was rather flimsy and had a separate sheet steel box held on by a set screw. Text on page 189 says 44 oz for the all steel version.
Don't have a clue how I came up with 32 oz? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" />
Open mouth, insert foot, buddy. I'm guilty! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
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Your in good company, Don--I have to be re-trained if my coffee break goes too long...
You had me wondering if the 32oz was HVA's titanium version <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
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TC1 where did you get the bottom metal? sure looks good on that action.
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If it's like mine it was made by Blackburn: www.blackburnmachine.com
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Terry, Is that a mexican 36 bolt on your 1910? Yes Chic, 36 cocking piece on a 1910 action. You might be seeing it in person as soon as Mark Stratton finishes with it. Terry
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