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Originally Posted by rifle
Why not support your local dealer? That's what the system is set up for?
That's how people get paid.That's how companies stay in business.Would you want somebody cutting a DEAL BEHIND YOUR BACK AND CLIPPING INTO YOUR PAYCHECK?
What's a couple bucks when you're getting a good product and a thanks from a shop owner?


I gladly support my local dealers as long as it does cost me any more money to do so.


My biggest fear is when I die my wife will sell my guns for what I told her they cost.
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Outside of a Gander Mountain I've never seen a new kimber in stock in a gunstore in the 4 states I travel thru pretty regular.

Of course if I wanted one I could drive to the enarest gun store and pay the $75 transfer fee for an order if I ordered it myself or if the ordered it for me I would pay full MSRP on any order.

So maybe I pass on that and go to the next gunstore that will order anything and everything you want - as long as you want to pull full MSRP on it.

Of course he will do a transfer as well. For 10% of the cost of the gun. Sounds like a bargain right? Of course maybe I say screw it and decide to just pay the 10% because I really want it - nothing beats having someone order something for you that cost a grand or more and then listen to them tell you how big of an idiot you are when you could buy XX at a fraction of the cost or what you really need is YY which is nothing like what you wanted. That right there in a nutshell is why people rather just order it off the phone or internet and pay a transfer fee. Of course that assumes he will even order it or tell you "They don't make it" even when you have a stock number and have a distributors name who has one in stock etc...I've been down that road multiple times at multiple shops. Trust me people get tired of it and they don't have to put up with it any longer. If you have a great local store - great - go buy everything they have.

There's a reason mom and pop gunstores are going under left and right. It's call capitalism. You better do it better and cheaper or you won't be around much longer. The internet changed all that, adapt or go under. Sorry if that's harsh but that's what every business has to deal with. My business deals with it everyday and I don't have federal regualtions that help prop me up either. If my customers start buying stuff out of state because it's cheaper/and or better I better figure out why in a hurry.

It's called capitalism.

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So yoiu have an FFL! do you have a store front and regular business expenses like rent and payroll and insurance? I would guess not. All business have expenses except garage bandits. Most distributors will not sell to anyone without a store front and retail licenses as well as sales tax license.

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Originally Posted by rifle
Hope nobody cuts into your horsechit....
but it could happen,Beware
Amazing how people can feel proud about being cheap....

Good night all..Happy Thanksgiving!
and let's be thankful for what we have,Remember those that gave so much and recieved so little,but yet carry on..
Muddy boots...


Rifle you seem upset...is it because you finally figured out boxer really is bigstick..... still laffin smile

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Naw...I just have a BAD juju about cheats,cheating and pluckin' people out of their money...I like to see people do well...

From what I am hearing,I guess I am blessed to have a good dealer in my area...

You going good? Kilt a big deer yet?


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Originally Posted by rifle
Yep, There's more to it,
like I said "you have to work at it"


And even when you work at it, you might not make any money. And you're certainly not entitled to any.

It's called Capitalism....God's way of determining who's smart, and who's poor.


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Originally Posted by rifle
Naw...I just have a BAD juju about cheats,cheating and pluckin' people out of their money...I like to see people do well...

From what I am hearing,I guess I am blessed to have a good dealer in my area...

You going good? Kilt a big deer yet?


I'm doing fine thanks for asking, hope your doing well also, I just think it's human nature to try and get the best deal a person can, I do try to support the business's in my area if they have fair prices and as funds allow, but will admit I like good deals too..... I did support Montana fish and game and a few other states as well

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One thing I agree on is we have alot to be thankful for......Happy Thanksgiving everyone!

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Originally Posted by Snowwolfe
Originally Posted by rifle
Why not support your local dealer? That's what the system is set up for?
That's how people get paid.That's how companies stay in business.Would you want somebody cutting a DEAL BEHIND YOUR BACK AND CLIPPING INTO YOUR PAYCHECK?
What's a couple bucks when you're getting a good product and a thanks from a shop owner?


I gladly support my local dealers as long as it does cost me any more money to do so.



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Originally Posted by rifle
Naw...I just have a BAD juju about cheats,cheating and pluckin' people out of their money...I like to see people do well...



you have some serious issues.

WTF is that BS?

there is your absolute problem. That one statment.
To cheat means to go against the rules. Whos rule? What rule? Under what pretext am I mandated to be a benefactor to a buisness that I reap no rewards from? I am not an investor in thier venture. I am a customer.

If I choose to buy an identical item from a less expensive source I am a cheat?
Obviously your daddy was too busy to teach you any GD manners.
In my world you dont call someone a cheat or a liar unless you have expectations of going out back.
Your a fking loudmouth arrogant prick.
You know chit about economics and you know chit about capitalism.

"protect investments"?
WTF?
your a freaking communist. you think that just because a company build or rents a space and unlocks the door at 9am they should be a prefered seller?
I work hard to shave a few dollars from the budget and buy my toys. Why should I negate my wants to support someone who isnt willing to adapt to reality?
Your a fking clown. you obviously stumbled into some money or married into it.
Probably the inlaws take care of you. you certainly never put on boots and worked for anything or you would understand one simple premise...

"I do not recognize the good of others as a justification for their seizure of my property "


and to all you MOM AND POP"S or BRICK AND MORTARS let me say this...

MINE. MY MONEY. Not a single penny do i owe to anyone who has not provided me adequate service. I deal with all men in trade. I want something from you, i will gladley pay its value, no more.
I will not financially support your cause or effort. For me to do so would cause you ruin because my buisness with you would be a crutch, allowing you to continue on in a buisness you could not succeed in without my charity.

Do you really think that a person who opens a restraunt, build a buisness, hires employees and pays taxs to the community should be supported by the commiunity if thier food sucks?

I suggest you spend some of that loot you seem to have hidden away from your inlawss and buy a copy of Atlas Shrugged, or borrow one from the Library.

WHATEVER YOU DO DONT ORDER IT ONLINE...


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No entitlement here,no in-laws,son of a two war NCO,educuted by life in the real world...look a person in the eye and mean what you say....however,
I do think I have a full understanding now, what "ringworn" does to one's brain...could almost feel sorry for you,but it's self-infected... not much help with that.

Happy Thanksgiving..anyway


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your sons service has chit to do with you.
your balls stayed the same size. I guess it does jump generations.
Seems your dad and son got the best of the balls and the brains.
Tell your son I said Semper Fi. I did my time w/ 3RDMARDIV.


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Hi Ecclectic
Sorry to come in this thread but it seem to me that you live in a liberal, capitalist anti socialist country. That's the way business is done world wide now: the more you have money, the biggest your shop or buying group the best rebate you get. Not only Kimber, Sony, Remington, GM or i don't know which or who...Every one!

It the same in our country or else where in EEC. That's life.
Sorry for you and other guy (i know some who are in same contest)
Have a good turkey and Thanksgiving
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I've got other things to do,like paper patch some bullets for my .22 Hornet...I concide to the village idiot..
You guys carry on as you please..treat others as you wish..

Ringworm..you're welcome to come over any time,tell the guards I said OK,but don't try to climb the walls....


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The store has been in the same location since 1955. Since the so called basement bandits cannot buy directly from Kimber, they pay more for an item than I do. They cannot compete with me on price. The opposite is true for members of the buying groups.

We cannot join a buying group. If one of the other dealers in town dropped out, we might be able to do so. That is unlikely.

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I see this is an old thread but thought I would commit on it. Kimber is sold through a few wholesalers. MGE, Orian, and shooing sport wholesale. I do have a FFL and operate from my home. This whole industry is a joke. As a dealer its very hard to make a fair profit from the sales from firearms. This industry should be no different than any other all items should be sold at msrp. The sale should be made based on the salesman being able provide good service. This crap selling at cost or a $1 over cost does nothing for this industry and shame on the gun manufactures for allowing this to go on. If there is a $300 difference one needs to look at everything. No mom and pop operation is making millions. Most are just trying to staying a float.

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