Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire Condi Rice: U.S. will never be "race blind"

as others have said, no culture on earth is 'race blind'. Always has been that way, probably always will be.
I think for the most part, America has done a darn good job, with regards to how we get along though.

Many, many excellent post made to this point. A recurring theme is that when any given race chooses to see that its members behave in a civil and proper manner, race becomes less of an identifier. Another, which is equally valid, is that as long as it is beneficial to a race to be singled out, that race will be more than happy for that to continue.

Probably correct but her race sets no example for the rest of us. Never have seen anyone as bad as blacks about racism.

Condi was nice when she kept her trap shut.

I've read research that indicated that even in multi-ethnic neighborhoods - where all the little kids play together - eventually - over time - they begin to self-segregate.

Therefore, it would seem to be a rather natural phenomena.

That's not to say picking one's friends is based on things like skin colour, but it does seem natural that people would enjoy hanging around others with the same type of background, the same food choices, the same living arrangements, the same religions etc. etc. etc.

I think it takes generations for people to truly assimilate into larger population groups - and then, only if it's a goal they desire.

Canada and the USA are among the best places on earth for people of different races to get a fair shot at achieving success.

I understand and agree with her statement - although the surrounding context may be helpful - and don't think her words or her intent convey anything negative - not a put-down of the US. Why do so many among us have a hard time listening to a factual analysis with which we may not agree? She is not saying that the US is deficient in some way - she is saying that we are a country of normal human beings conditioned by our past behavior.

Study of her history and utterances shows no tendency whatsoever to play the race card, and certainly no expectation of favored treatment due to her skin color/racial status. She has earned her cred and it is evident.

Not only is she correct, but she is correct on the basis of experiences that many among us never will have. Grew up in a somewhat cultured black family in a hot bed of anti-black racist behavior down south - witnessed enough evil racist behavior to get the picture - went her own way as a brilliant student and academic, earned a challenging Ph.D and has held highly respected roles at at one of the supposedly elite universities.

Beyond her work in two top Cabinet posts in the GWBush administration, she is a well-known expert on foreigh affairs - particulalry Russian history and culture.

Now - for those who don't like her comments, what type of person would you like to have state some views about racism in our society?

I used to work for a nationwide trucking company. We had 3 black drivers stationed in Salt Lake. 2 were regular guys, well liked and who did a good job. The 3d was a black racist. Some other drivers told me that the 2 regular guys got him in a corner and threatened to take him apart if he didn't shape up because he was jeopardizing their respect in the company.

NASCAR: The ultimate race card

humm Ghost, before i hit 'play' i thought she was talking about you. joking of course

When any given race pisses and moans about how miserable it is to be a citizen of the country most on earth would want to be a citizen of, you can bet their problem lies within them.

It's possible. Personally I think she was showing the approximate distance between her two front teeth.

I do wish she would have run as a republican and prevented the obamabortion

Not a chance. The right wing of the GOP would have crucified her over "lifestyle choices".

Well, I never heard about that. The dims always said her and W were having a thing, but with the way they lie... I guess they (GOP) did the same to Sarah Palin.

Because that's ALL we hear 24/7/365 during the politcal season, which is about to meet itself ending and beginning. Why continually harp on the poor hand the blacks were dealt in this country? The blacks born in this latest generation can go to college and land a great job...all without being able to read or write.




As is every other country on the planet, and we engage in the most encompassing effort to overcome our Pavlovian reaction bar none when compared to other countries.



Well, that's shot now, isn't it?



How about NO person state their views on racism? We've heard it until we're sick of it. It does more harm than good to play the race card; I don't give a [bleep] who plays it. The playing field is so far past level, the blacks who want to succeed need only enter the system and they will be spoon-fed to success. The ones who want to remain in poverty, or run around in gangs shooting one another, and blaming it on "whitey", have dug in so deep in how they live we'd have to turn the playing field 180 degrees and shake them loose.

Magnumdood - whether or not you realize it, you just did what you asked "how about" we not do. Most of us do not like to be reminded of things we find uncomfortable.

Although some - I for one - would argue your comments that are "overboard", no sane person would argue against your point about opportunities provided today, nor would they argue what you say about the efforts this country has made toward correction.

Rice did not blow any of her record. She was not arguing any of the above or harping on black issues - nor was she seeking any advantage in position - nor was she bemoaning any particular situation or action - thus was NOT playing the race card. She merely was stating what some people - especially many liberal types - do not want to acknowledge but any thinking person knows - racism is not ever going to completely go away, here or anywhere else.

You just helped verify that.

I see some negatives and many positives in Condi Rice, but certainly not racist speech or behavior.

No, I was responding to your comments.


Big surprise there...


I know.


Playing the race card isn't held to single issues/events. Condi Rice brought the issue to the forefront of the national consciousness more effectively than a football team of Sharptons and Jacksons with an unlimited budget could. She has been a conservative and a highly respected, valuable asset to our country, and she played the race card more effectively than anyone I can think of.

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funny, I see many negatives, and damn few positives in Condi.

If you think others race baiting and playing the race card make me uncomfortable, then you are a long way off the mark.

Race baiting and others playing the race card pisses me off. If "uncomfortable" and "pissed off" are equivalent in your understanding of human emotions and behaviors, as I said, you're way off the mark.

Doesn't it give many of you pause that somebody who is respected and revered on this site in regards to almost all her beliefs, policies and accomplishments, sees something different from all the whites on this board? Instead of trying to understand it through her eyes, you just choose to suddenly marginalize her as another black whiner playing the race card?