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This is a decent counterpoint to a parallel thread running at this time. I wouldn't touch that sucker with a barge pole.
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Sheriffs Stand Up to Fed
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Written By: Larry Pratt | Posted: Thursday, December 1st, 2011

GOA member Dr. Ray Seidel alerted me to the stirring of freedom that is taking place in his village of Ruidoso, New Mexico. I have already reported on the first battle with Mayor Ray Alborn and how he tried to impose an unconstitutional gun ban in the village. To get the full story of what happened in Ruidoso, you can go here and listen to my first debriefing session with Seidel.

I recently interviewed Dr. Seidel a second time on my Gun Owners News Hour weekly radio program and asked him about several acts of local interposition in the surrounding counties -- all of which underscores the importance of the office of the sheriff and the militia.

For example, over near Deming, New Mexico is the Gila National Forest. The U.S. Forest Service wanted to make almost all of it off limits for people -- until the militia of Luna County intervened. They told the feds that they would resist any effort by the Forest Service to restrict access to visitors. The result? Visitors have continued to access all of the Gila National Forest!

In the Southeast corner of the state, many landowners have working oil wells on their property. The EPA told the oil operators they would have to stop operating their wells because there was too much risk of harming the environment. At a town hall meeting convened by the EPA, a woman in her 60s rose to address the feds. She pointed out that her land had been in her family for over 200 years, and she was not about to let some official from an unconstitutional bureaucracy tell her what she could or could not do with her land.

The woman ended by warning the feds that her family has many guns and a huge supply of ammunition, and they would use all of it if needed to keep the EPA off of their land. The locals who had packed out the hearing room jumped to their feet with a shout and prolonged applause. That was in August of this year. As of November, oil is still being pumped at full tilt.

In Otero County, villages in the mountains are surrounded by forests. The county commission voted to establish an 80,000 acre plan to manage forest overgrowth. Residents wanted to cut fire breaks to protect their homes in Cloudcroft, but the Forest Service said, "No." The residents responded that they had to for safety's sake and were going to construct the fire break in spite of the Forest Service. Residents were told that if they cut down any trees, they would be arrested. But Sheriff Raymond Cobos told the Forest Service that if they made any arrests, they would be arrested for false arrest.

Not only were the trees cut down with no opposition from the feds, the first tree was cut down by Congressman Steve Pearce (R-2nd District). Would that there were many more like Rep. Pearce. The folks in the Second District are blessed with a constitution-supporting congressman and a number of constitutional sheriffs backed by the militias of their counties. This is the way that local governments can push back and help the feds to live within the limitations that have been placed upon them in Article 1, Section 8 of the U.S. Constitution.

As you can see, there's a lot happening in New Mexico. The militia in Lincoln County - some 200 plus men who keep their rifle and battle bag in their vehicles 24/7 -can be mustered in about 30 minutes at any place in the county. New Mexico is becoming a text book example of how the Founding Fathers envisioned the states would rein in an out-of-control government.

As stated by Alexander Hamilton in Federalist 28: "It may safely be received as an axiom in our political system that the State governments will, in all possible contingencies, afford complete security against invasions of the public liberty by the national authority."

If there were more sheriffs like those in New Mexico serving around the country, we would be well on the way to safeguarding our liberties against Washington's "invasions of the public liberty." It also might occur to the Congress that more examples of sheriffs interposing themselves might result in shrinking down the federal government to do little more than just funding the national defense.

Larry Pratt has been Executive Director of Gun Owners of America for 27 years. GOA is a national membership organization of 300,000 Americans dedicated to promoting their second amendment freedom to keep and bear arms. The GOA web site is: gunowners.org. E-Mail: [email protected]


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Sorry, forgot to post the

Link: http://gunowners.org/op11212011lp.htm


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Damn fine work on their part, we need much more of this.


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Damn fine work on their part, we need much more of this.



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Thanks Greg! I suspect these kind of "goings on" may well continue until the election results in 2012. Obama gets re-elected, things will change rapidly. Faster, if he doesn't.



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Makes me want to move. Around here if the government got out of hand there might be a drive by slapping but that is about it.


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I would say lots more and maybe go to Washington DC and run them idiots out fire them don't want to leave use force to evick them. Fire the whole bunch take our country back

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I like that part about the militias. I wonder how they keep the crazies and paramilitary types from making it a laughing stock?

I know a bunch of guys around here who would take it seriously and I also know a bunch that would show up in face paint.

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I hope standing up against tyranny catches on in the rest of the country.

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As you can see, there's a lot happening in New Mexico. The militia in Lincoln County - some 200 plus men who keep their rifle and battle bag in their vehicles 24/7 -can be mustered in about 30 minutes at any place in the county. New Mexico is becoming a text book example of how the Founding Fathers envisioned the states would rein in an out-of-control government.
Excellent!


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"........how they keep the crazies and paramilitary types from making it a laughing stock?"

Simple, Se�or,....they "Police Their Own Ranks".

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Well, we all have about 11 months to reverse the mistake of 2008.
And to add to the House of Reps and definitely to the Senate. We need 4 more to eek out a majority.
If Obama gets re-elected, the economy will accelerate its death spiral and Obamacare will be the final nail in the coffin.
There has never been a more radical Dem. party with a President who is their "leader".


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By the way, believing in the sinister nature of Holder and the DOJ, I wouldn't put it past them to have a team monitoring sites like this. Anyone capable of instigating "F&F" is capable of eaves dropping on us.


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++++++

FYI,...those are "POSITIVES"


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Thanks for posting. Nice to hear encouraging news once in a while.


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By the way, believing in the sinister nature of Holder and the DOJ, I wouldn't put it past them to have a team monitoring sites like this. Anyone capable of instigating "F&F" is capable of eaves dropping on us.


I (Personally speaking) would take THAT to the bank, as in a 100% CERTAINTY.

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Originally Posted by crossfireoops
This is a decent counterpoint to a parallel thread running at this time. I wouldn't touch that sucker with a barge pole.
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Sheriffs Stand Up to Fed
[http://www.eauclairejournal.com/]

A Conservative Newspaper Promoting,
Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness

Written By: Larry Pratt | Posted: Thursday, December 1st, 2011

GOA member Dr. Ray Seidel alerted me to the stirring of freedom that is taking place in his village of Ruidoso, New Mexico. I have already reported on the first battle with Mayor Ray Alborn and how he tried to impose an unconstitutional gun ban in the village. To get the full story of what happened in Ruidoso, you can go here and listen to my first debriefing session with Seidel.

I recently interviewed Dr. Seidel a second time on my Gun Owners News Hour weekly radio program and asked him about several acts of local interposition in the surrounding counties -- all of which underscores the importance of the office of the sheriff and the militia.

For example, over near Deming, New Mexico is the Gila National Forest. The U.S. Forest Service wanted to make almost all of it off limits for people -- until the militia of Luna County intervened. They told the feds that they would resist any effort by the Forest Service to restrict access to visitors. The result? Visitors have continued to access all of the Gila National Forest!

In the Southeast corner of the state, many landowners have working oil wells on their property. The EPA told the oil operators they would have to stop operating their wells because there was too much risk of harming the environment. At a town hall meeting convened by the EPA, a woman in her 60s rose to address the feds. She pointed out that her land had been in her family for over 200 years, and she was not about to let some official from an unconstitutional bureaucracy tell her what she could or could not do with her land.

The woman ended by warning the feds that her family has many guns and a huge supply of ammunition, and they would use all of it if needed to keep the EPA off of their land. The locals who had packed out the hearing room jumped to their feet with a shout and prolonged applause. That was in August of this year. As of November, oil is still being pumped at full tilt.

In Otero County, villages in the mountains are surrounded by forests. The county commission voted to establish an 80,000 acre plan to manage forest overgrowth. Residents wanted to cut fire breaks to protect their homes in Cloudcroft, but the Forest Service said, "No." The residents responded that they had to for safety's sake and were going to construct the fire break in spite of the Forest Service. Residents were told that if they cut down any trees, they would be arrested. But Sheriff Raymond Cobos told the Forest Service that if they made any arrests, they would be arrested for false arrest.

Not only were the trees cut down with no opposition from the feds, the first tree was cut down by Congressman Steve Pearce (R-2nd District). Would that there were many more like Rep. Pearce. The folks in the Second District are blessed with a constitution-supporting congressman and a number of constitutional sheriffs backed by the militias of their counties. This is the way that local governments can push back and help the feds to live within the limitations that have been placed upon them in Article 1, Section 8 of the U.S. Constitution.

As you can see, there's a lot happening in New Mexico. The militia in Lincoln County - some 200 plus men who keep their rifle and battle bag in their vehicles 24/7 -can be mustered in about 30 minutes at any place in the county. New Mexico is becoming a text book example of how the Founding Fathers envisioned the states would rein in an out-of-control government.

As stated by Alexander Hamilton in Federalist 28: "It may safely be received as an axiom in our political system that the State governments will, in all possible contingencies, afford complete security against invasions of the public liberty by the national authority."

If there were more sheriffs like those in New Mexico serving around the country, we would be well on the way to safeguarding our liberties against Washington's "invasions of the public liberty." It also might occur to the Congress that more examples of sheriffs interposing themselves might result in shrinking down the federal government to do little more than just funding the national defense.

Larry Pratt has been Executive Director of Gun Owners of America for 27 years. GOA is a national membership organization of 300,000 Americans dedicated to promoting their second amendment freedom to keep and bear arms. The GOA web site is: gunowners.org. E-Mail: [email protected]


Oklahoma could be next, but we can't get into a controversy with the Feds over cutting down trees because we don't have any!

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Seems to me the Texans and Arizonans could do the same things, if they had the fortitude of the New Mexicans. Maybe they don't want to be like the New Mexicans and want to be like the Old Mexicans.

I have been saying all along here on the Fire that citizens can do their own policing of their neighborhood and lifestyle if they choose to.

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