Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunting Rifles Why no love for Browing bolt rifles?

Wow.... guess we are getting a bit off topic!

All the little pins and parts are what bug me... but I sure as heck have friends that have used them long and successfully.

But none of those guys are rifle nuts, "just" hunters...

This is the only Browning A-Bolt that I've ever purchased.
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Says right on the label " Made in Japan "

Ken

I don't recall Leupold having a need to defend themselves, do you? You cited come horseshit, heretofore unknown case, so pony up with the specifics, dickweed. You can either prove your claims or you're just f*cking full of [bleep].

Bricktop your wasting your breath with poor SU. He is irrelevant and bases his opinions on emotions rather than experience.

Speaking of which, He has practically none with the A-Bolt and has been forced to admit as much in the past.

Just an emotionally fragile fella with an irrational hatred of A-Bolt's. Probably pinched his finger as a child.

He will ignore facts, has none of his own and will question the experiences of Dogzapper, JB and countless others here that have 50 times more experience with the rifle than he has.

laffin.

Some of these guys will stand in dog schit and accuse others of smelling bad.

Merry Christmas!

I stand by the quote of mine above, but have seen an additional SS A-Bolt with a corrosion locked trigger...

If they were truly hunted hard in very wet country only, the chances of them remaining on the market would be slim... It is obvious the metalurgy is the issue as not all of them fail as I know of several that have been hunted hard under wet, salty conditions and they are doing fine.
art

I've owned various rifles. Including an A-Bolt. I liked that A-Bolt to.

IMHO the bottom line is a good Mauser is the most reliable magazine bolt action design and the rotary magazine Savage 99 is the best lever action design.
Most of us do not need the reliability of a Mauser or a Savage 99.

Gotta admit that Made in Japan is a major turn-off to me. Not sure what it is but I am not opposed to many other things made in Japan or elsewhere. I mean Japan has put out some fine optics, motorcycles, cars, pickups etc. When I think rifle, I think hunting in the western mountains, 2nd Amendment, I think American, I think of generations past and those great rifles like your Mod 70 Super Grade. My granddad's generation did not favor things Japanese. I just don't want a hunting rifle made in Japan. Not nitpicking if some small part was sourced there or even a major component like the glass in a Leupy scope, that is not the deal. Is the tooling all made in the US - that's not it either. Howa - sounds Japanese. Bushnell? Nikon - surely. But Browning - Browning is a great American gun name and its a darn shame. Merry Christmas. OT

Yea right and My next factory rifle will be a Kimber..LMAO..........................Hb

Browning has NEVER been a "great American gun name." They've always been the Milli Vanilli of guns. They've never manufactured anything themselves and have sourced things from wherever manufacturing capacity has existed and contracts could be obtained. Europe, Asia, North America, etc. It's never mattered.

Holding a bias over country of origin just doesn't make sense anymore. The global economy pretty well guarantees anything you buy is either going to have parts, subassemblies or materials sourced from outside the U.S. And in some cases, made in the U.S. with workers sourced from outside the U.S.

The A-Bolt series of rifles are great rifles. Period. They do everything they've been advertised as capable of doing. However, I prefer Rugers, Winchesters, USRACs, Remingtons, Sakos, Howas, and MRCs.

If they were still made in Belgium, I guess most of us would be satisfied, but having them made here would be great.

There are still hard feelings regarding Japan and the role they played in the Big One. There mistreatment of POW's is my main hang up.

Even though the Japanese do good work, I'm not fond of them being made there for this reason.

I guess that we all carry some resentment for them regarding that. I do.

What I find ironic is that we are proud to own fine German rifles and especially optics.

The Nazi's were just as bad, if not worse, but they didn't have the reputation for mistreating American POW's like the Japanese did.

They just murdered 6 million jews and countless others...

My question is, how long do you carry a grudge against a former enemy who has since been a strong ally?

Browning, as in JM Browning, is a great name in American guns... The OP asked,"Why no love," I answered. Not that I think all Americans would be great arms builders... Nor that it makes sense. How about this: back in the day they were so shiny they kinda hurt my eyes! Merry Christmas Bricktop and everyone else.

Yeah, and the Belgians really did right by the Congolese.

The current generation doesn't need to be saddled with the sins of the past.

My sister in law hunts with a lever action Browning in 7mm-08. Its the PERFECT rifle her as she is a lefty and not fond of bolt action rifles.

Browning BLR is a keeper!

Sherwood

I like mine. It is a Belgian made FN Mauser action, to bad they made the new ones in Japan. Watch World at War a few episodes. A friend of mine had a father who was a bomber pilot in WW2. Before he died he said his only regret was that he didn't kill more of them.

I drive Toyota Landcruisers, and hunt with A-bolts. They never fail me.
My shotguns are all Ithaca though I would gladly hunt an SKB.
Thankfully Montana has a mild climate, not known for temperature or moisture extremes, which allows my fragile A-bolts to function.

Great idea. Let's start boycotting things made by nations who oppressed or subjugated other peoples or nations. The U.S. permitted segregation well into the 20th Century, decimated Indian tribes, while the European nations gave us the colonialism we all know and love. So let's not buy anything made in the U.S. anymore or anything from the European continent. And for GOD'S SAKE, QUIT USING THE $20 BILL!!!! It pays homage to the demonic bastard who forced the removal of the southeastern U.S. Indian tribes!!!!

What a load of BULLSHIT.

I like the older Belgium Brownings maybe for no other reason than they are so PURRRTY and they have always worked fine for me.
I have a BPS (so far, it's a great gun) and I believe they were ALL made in Jaypan.
A buddy hunts with a 280 A-bolt and he loves it. Never had a problem with the Jap Brownings.

I like my Brownings...period

I've loved two 1970's BLR's in .308 and .358 and a BL-22 that has had at least 10,000 rounds through it without a single hiccup.