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This is the first 100 yard group i shot from the AR-15 204 i built with a Shilen 1&9 twist. Sierra 39 gr BK , 26 gr H4895 , Rem 7.5 , Win Brass. Whistle Pig taken with same load at around 200 yards , never even moves after shot. DOA on the spot.
A Doe walks out of the woods today and says, that is the last time I'm going to do that for Two Bucks.
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When my barrel and action are sitting at the smiths ( now..for instance...) you guys arent helping me qwell my anticipation!
"...the left considers you vermin, and they'll kill you given the chance..." Bristoe
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If hunting Coyote fur is your passion, you are going to love that 204. It might be a perfect caliber for those hairy beasts, although the 17 Rem has a higher fun factor. Some loads to ponder while you wait. All from the Bobcat smacker in the previous photo. Not quite the groups bea175 displayed, but the best I can do with that light weight.
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"...the left considers you vermin, and they'll kill you given the chance..." Bristoe
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I'm I going to have to get a 204 now? Of course I'd go aftermarket tube, that factories twist it too slow.
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They are great out to about 350, past that I go heavier, and keepin mind I use 39 grainers.
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I routinely bang steel to 800 with mine......
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.204 is a great fur gun and a pretty good killer...
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K22,
What are your accuracy speeds with 8208 and the 35 Berger?
Thanks...
- Greg
Success is found at the intersection of planning, hard work, and stubbornness.
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I haven't been able to get my Bolt Guns to shoot the groups i get from the AR'S . A well built AR never ceases to amaze me on how well they will shoot and group.
A Doe walks out of the woods today and says, that is the last time I'm going to do that for Two Bucks.
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Curoius
Why is the 17 more fun than the 204?
I have both and I , for paper, haven't seen any difference although the 204 is 13# and the 17 is 10#...may have to shoot them side by side but suspect your reason for liking the 17 better is impact on a critters?
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Allen
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I grab my 17 centerfire over my 20Tac just becuase it is more fur friendly on foxes. Call 10 fox to 1 coyote. I have fun with little calibers, but if I lived somewhere there was a pile of coyotes I would run a 22-250 and call it good
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I have the 17 Remington , 204 Ruger and the 20 Practical and can't tell a whole lot of difference in the killing power of the three
A Doe walks out of the woods today and says, that is the last time I'm going to do that for Two Bucks.
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Sorry I meant for Yotes when I said 300 max, for Pdogs I add some to that, but with Kansas winds I got with the 243 if I'm reaching out past 450-500.
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A 7lb 18" midlength AR in .20 Vartarg is my "holy grail" of calling guns, just can't find anyone who is willing to build it.......Guess I'll just keep dreamin'....grin!
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Curoius
Why is the 17 more fun than the 204?
I have both and I , for paper, haven't seen any difference although the 204 is 13# and the 17 is 10#...may have to shoot them side by side but suspect your reason for liking the 17 better is impact on a critters?
Thanks
Allen Because it has been my favorite caliber since my first one in "71". My 17 and 204 together wouldn't weigh what your 204 weighs. With rifles that light, there is a noticeable difference in recoil between those 2 calibers. Slight, but noticeable. I'm sure that at 10 to 13 lbs. it would be hard to tell.
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Thanks for the clarification.
I am going to the range tomorrow to try a possible "new" 204 and will warm up with the 17 ar . Should be a closer weight comparison.
Allen
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A 7lb 18" midlength is my "holy grail" of calling guns, just can't find anyone who is willing to build it.......Guess I'll just keep dreamin'....grin!
X-VERMINATOR all you should need would be a barrel , White Oaks should be able to help you with this
A Doe walks out of the woods today and says, that is the last time I'm going to do that for Two Bucks.
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Ya 10-4, chambering a barrel is not the problem. Can't find someone to take on the full build. Seems no one is confident that they can make it feed.
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Don't know bout ya'll but I've a dozen or so single shots. and Ya gotta love the 20's. I've taken varmint, hogs and deer with my Cooper Classic in Tac 20 and 40 gr. v-max. Shoots like a laser beam. Get 3850 +/- fps using 24.5 gr. Reloader 10x. Lately I really become enamored of the 20 Vartarg............. A short while back I was checking the zero on some "deer rifles" before I went to my lease. Took my Cooper Model 21 Varminter in 20 VarTarg along for some "light entertainment" while waiting for the barrels to cool between groups. Here are three different groups shot at 100 yds. First two are 5 shot groups, each RL7. The 10 shot group is H-4198. Love those Coopers. Cooper Model 21 Varminter, 20 VarTarg
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