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Is the NBT considered a plain Jane?
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Jayco Ya, I would consider them a 'plain jane'.... One right up there with hornady for popularity it looks like. Mabe call the NBT a 'fancy' plain jane!
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I have also started hunting with all Noslers. 140 Ballistic tip in the 7mm-08 for deer and 160 Accubond in my 7mmRemMag for elk. Never had a hard time getting them to shoot well when I did my part right. Perform well on their intended targets too.
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I wouldn't classify a bullet that has only been around for about 25 years designed for a specific need,a plain Jane like the "standard" Hornady/Speer and Sierra.
That would be like calling the Hornady bonded, a standard bullet.It's not!!!
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May favorite plain jane is the defunct Nosler Solid Base (remember them?). I have several boxes in multiple weights and calibers. That said, I use and like Speers, Hornadys, and Sierras for our Texas deer and hogs almost as well.
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I wouldn't classify a bullet that has only been around for about 25 years designed for a specific need,a plain Jane like the "standard" Hornady/Speer and Sierra.
That would be like calling the Hornady bonded, a standard bullet.It's not!!!
Jayco Once again, your ignorance is apparent. The NBT has a boat tail heel, a copper jacket with a lead core and a hollow point that is tipped by polymer. Last I checked, Hornady, Speer, and Sierra ALL have BTs with copper jackets and lead cores. There are also hollow points available in each brand. Additionally, Winchester had a tipped bullets called Silvertips and Remington had their Bronze Points way back when. In other words, EVERY aspect of the Nosler BT was used for bullet design YEARS before the Nosler BT was designed with the exception of the material the tip was made out of...how could that not be considered "standard"?
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I probably hit more elk with a pickup than you have with a rifle. I have yet to see anyone claim Leupold has never had to fix an optic. I know I have sent a few back. 2 MK 6s, a VX-6, and 3 VX-111s.
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Once again, your ignorance is apparent. How do you say [bleep] you on the net without offending,big mouth? The fact is the Nosler BT is not a plain Jane as the old bullets mentioned in the original post..It's been around how long??????????And...How many of the old plain Janes are ballistic tips? Plain Jane means "No" Ballistic tips.."No" bonding" just plain Jane bullets of old.. Jayco
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Once again, your ignorance is apparent. How do you say [bleep] you on the net without offending,big mouth? The fact is the Nosler BT is not a plain Jane as the old bullets mentioned in the original post..It's been around how long??????????And...How many of the old plain Janes are ballistic tips? Plain Jane means "No" Ballistic tips.."No" bonding" just plain Jane bullets of old.. Jayco It is a plain jane with a tip on it, and as I pointed out Winchester and Remington were tipping their bullets waaaay back in the day. I don't see how age has anything to do with whether a bullet can be considered a plain jane or not. If Company X came out with a standard CNC bullet tomorrow, would you not considered it a plain jane bullet because it is too "new"?
I probably hit more elk with a pickup than you have with a rifle. I have yet to see anyone claim Leupold has never had to fix an optic. I know I have sent a few back. 2 MK 6s, a VX-6, and 3 VX-111s.
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It is a plain jane with a tip on it That was not the question,was it..He never mentioned plain janes with a tip or bonding,did he... Jayco
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I think "plain jane" usually refers to a lack of controlled expansion, simply C&C bullets.
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Have used many brands of the standard C/C bullets but tend to lean away from them and go back to a Bonded or a Partition. Living in the Brooks Range can be difficult if your bullet fails to penetrate properly. My experience yeilds results due to shot placement and good bullets that truly can penetrate and/or exit. I am amazed how some bullets just "splat" when moose or grizz hides are wet after just getting out of the river or lake. Suppose C/C have there place but not with me completely. This post of mine can carry on but you get the idea. For lil' game most lower state boys shoot at a standard c/c will suffice.
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I think "plain jane" usually refers to a lack of controlled expansion, simply C&C bullets. This guy gets it. Logsniffer, listen up.
I probably hit more elk with a pickup than you have with a rifle. I have yet to see anyone claim Leupold has never had to fix an optic. I know I have sent a few back. 2 MK 6s, a VX-6, and 3 VX-111s.
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I think "plain jane" usually refers to a lack of controlled expansion, simply C&C bullets. Yep, simple cup/core bullets... aka plain jane, regular, standard, normal, regular soft point. Just a copper jacket housing some lead... No partitions, bonding of core, no non-monometal things. JUST my opinion, Tips mean nothing other than a colorful, pointy addition to the general cup/core bullet....they still just a cup/core bullet!
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Hornady FP's shoot great out of my 30-30. The 165gr GameKing has shot very hood out of three different 30-06s and performed great on Whitetails.
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All cup and core bullets are controlled expansion. Usually accomplished by jacket thickness,tapering of the jacket and lead hardness. BT's have very thick jackets at the heel, in fact thicker than any standard lead, non bonded and copper bullet
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I use all that have been mentioned for general plinking, shooting and the like. I typically use what I can buy the cheapest. I have several rifles that like the 162 gr PSPBT in the 7mm Caliber. I use the for pre season shooting and plinking They have the same POA as does the 175 PT. I always check my Nolser PT's before I go out the door. With my 308's the 180 Sierra BT shoot same POA as my PT, but I always check prior to leaving. Other than that what ever is in the closest box.
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For plain bullets, I use mostly Hornady and some Speer. I do like Nosler for semi-premium and premium.
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