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65BR,
(I've never had a 700 extractor fail anyway, in tens of thousands of rounds on a bunch of rifles.)
Keep playin' with magnum bolt face 700's and you will. I've seen two fail, an 8mm mag in the late 70's and a 7mm rem mag about ten years ago. Both rifles were nearly new.
Rick Boucher was the original NCOIC at SOTIC. He has said that if you change a 700 extractor when you rebarrel, it will never fail (with a 0.473 bolt face) as they rebarreled 308's several times and only had a couple of extractors fail in the history of the course . Boucher works there as a DOD civilian now and has for a long time.
So, IMO, the weak 700 extractor is a non-issue in standard bolt face actions, and a potential problem with magnums. I'd go Sako or M16 if I was building a 700 magnum rifle.
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Tim do you have a picture you can share? I'm in Bahrain at the moment but i can take one for you when i get home on wed. Only thing i'd like to do is find a different bolt knob and replace the factory one with something a little bigger.
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Take a knee,
Gee, if I recall correctly my list of 700's has included a custom .270 Weatherby, a 7mm SAUM, a .300 Winchester Magnum, a .300 RUM, and a .350 Remington Magnum, along with my 9.3 B-S. I've also hunted with a pile of people who had 700's (and Model 7's) in various magnum cartridges. None of those extractors ever broke.
Maybe I'm just lucky, but I doubt it, since so many scopes have fallen apart in my presence during the same period, including some very pricey ones.
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Kick A$$, Karnis has my stock ready, one step closer to stonin' some critters.
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I have a 9.3x62mm and like it very much, but surely the .375 Ruger makes far more sense for big bears in North America???
Even if you don't need full power loads, I'd prefer to load down a cartridge to get the performance I want, than run a smaller one to the red line to get similar performance??
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PETE E,
I couldnt agree more, hence the reason I started this post w/ so many questions about the 9.3x62 and its effectiveness
I handload from a 22-250AI up to 577 NE and have magazine rifles in 375AI, 458WM, and 505 Gibbs.
Just thought it would be fittin to chamber a barrel for an old heym action I had layin around to Mr. Bock's finest.
Plus, a bud will be huntin w/ me one land he's very familiar with.
Gonna try the 320 woodies between 2350/2400fps w/@24.5" brl.
rl-15, 17 or TAC outta get it there.
Thanks for Your opinion,
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PETE E,
I couldnt agree more, hence the reason I started this post w/ so many questions about the 9.3x62 and its effectiveness
I handload from a 22-250AI up to 577 NE and have magazine rifles in 375AI, 458WM, and 505 Gibbs.
Just thought it would be fittin to chamber a barrel for an old heym action I had layin around to Mr. Bock's finest.
Plus, a bud will be huntin w/ me one land he's very familiar with.
Gonna try the 320 woodies between 2350/2400fps w/@24.5" brl.
rl-15, 17 or TAC outta get it there.
Thanks for Your opinion,
Gunner A Heym in 9.3x62mm would certainly be a classic combination and would be hard not to like. My observation was a reflection that many here are trying to run 9.3 to the red line, when its simply not needed.. I have tried the 286grn barnes X and they shoot very well. Mu next venture will be the 250grn Barnes, as i think they might be a better "all roader" for plains game ect.. Keep us posted on the Heym and would love to see pics when its done.. Regards, Peter
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10-4, Ill see if Karnis will post some pics of the beautiful job he done on the stock.
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Pete,
You're right, there's no reason to red-line the 9.3x62.
But loading it up to 60,000 psi (standard .30-06 factory pressure) with modern powders will get 2650 with 250's and 2500 with 286's in a 24" barrel. So there's also no reason not to exceed the original factory velocities of over a century ago.
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Thanks a billion Karnis, Your modesty is a very nice trait but, You are Master Grade in my book.
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Dont mean to dredge up such an old topic but, !!!MY RIFLE FINALLY GOT HERE!!!  , it was a long wait. i did reach my goal of running the 320 Woodleighs to 2400 fps w/ RL-17, was about 50 shy w/ RL-15, i had my rifle throated so i could use all available magazine space. It allows a col of 3.340 w/ the big Woodleigh, therefore 63.5 gns of RL-17 is an easy fit. I fired a 1.25" 3 shot group off sticks @50 yds with the quarter rib express sights  , with my limited skill, this load is very promising. I may take this rifle to Tenn and try to knock over a pig w/ it, my old bud had some medical issues last year so no bear hunt, but theres always next year. Rifle weighs 8.75 lbs with no scope or rings but with a Montana sling and 5 rounds on board, recoil with a 320 @2400 is pretty snappy Gunner
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Let go of the charge thing...bears are not hiding behind every bush waiting to pounce out and get you.....Have been hunting Alaska for 25 years and have never been charged. Been around plenty of brown and interior bears. could happen but you are more likley to die of exposure or in a super cub flying to your hunting area. If you do shoot one and hit him right you wont have to worry about a charge. Besides your spending time dinking around with ballistic gack instead of practicing you will probably miss the charging bear and he will get you anyway.  BTW nice rifle!
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lefty, no GACK intended, just a simple test to see what can safely be obtained on the '06 sized case, been done thousands of times before by other folks.
In using such a small round in the thickets of Kamchatka, i had to prove to myself this round could do a proper job, dont guess i'll e-mail that bear whisperer dude for advice, he's bear [bleep], so i guess it does happen on occasion.
Oh, and i actually shoot everyday, mostly with irons or peeps.
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That's the equal of a .375 H&H... nothing wrong with that. Lots of hunters and guides think that the old .375 "is just perfect" for the big brownies! Bob www.bigbores.ca
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Thanks CZ550, thats what i hoped to approach with this rifle, i may be cheating a bit as my rifle has a 24.5" barrel. i just finished reading your 5 pages on the 9.3X62, a very informative and interesting read, Thanks Gunner
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Anyone ever use the 285 Norma Oryx on game? This bullet shoots very well out of my CZ550 while I don't get as good of accuracy w/ Nosler 286 bullets. Only thing I've shot with it so far is a buffalo. I killed kudu and gemsbok with the Norma factory 285gr Oryx, and I have nothing but good things to say about it. I also used it as a second shot from My 9,3X74R on buffalo after a good hit with a 286 Woodleigh solid. It was from a combo gun with one rifle barrel, and the solid was in the chamber, as I wasn't the primary hunter, just a bit of back up. I was in the right place at the right time and used the solid first. As to the 320 Woodleighs in a 9,3X62 at 2,400 FPS...Good 'effen Luck! I tried them in my 9,3X62s with many different powders, and I popped primer pockets at around 2,300 FPS at best.
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[quote=Joezone]As to the 320 Woodleighs in a 9,3X62 at 2,400 FPS...Good 'effen Luck! I tried them in my 9,3X62s with many different powders, and I popped primer pockets at around 2,300 FPS at best. Of course, that was in your rifle, not his. I have three 9.3X62 rifles, and there is close to 100 fps difference between the fastest, a Husqvarna with a 600 mm (23 3/4") barrel that has a long throat, and a 22" Les Bauska barreled pre-war Model 70 that has much shorter throat. Ted
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One was an Husqvarna 98 with a 24" barrel, and the other was a BRNO ZV 24 Mauser action with a Bauska barrel, medium contour 24". I never tried them in my CZ American I had later.
I was able to get a bit over 2,200 in several 9,3X74Rs, and I was happy with that.
Neither 9,3X62 wanted anything to do with the 320s, much to my disappointment, and with any powder or seating depth I tried.
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