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I spend most of the summer and fall in Canada and I only get the CBC at the cabin. I concur that there is even more of a liberal bias at the CBC than the worst U.S. liberal media. When Jack Layton, leader of the NDP (liberal socialist) party passed this summer, the CBC went to almost complete coverage of his passing and funeral for an entire week.
What a blessing DVD's are at a remote location. walt501; I'm sorry that you had to witness that bit of our social engineering at work.  On behalf of Canadians who didn't worship at the feet of Mr. Layton (there are actually quite a few of us it seems, based upon the last election results  ) - I'd like to apologize for the CBC's ridiculous behavior. On a lighter note, the CBC does give reasonably accurate local weather forecasts so they aren't COMPLETELY useless, though very close to that....   Well, being a Canuck, I must go now and fire up the tractor to plow out the yard and the neighbors places too. All the best to you in 2012 sir. Regards, Dwayne Thanks BC, my best to you and yours in 2012 as well. I've been going to Canada since I was 9 years old. That would have been 1958! There is so much to like about Canada, with the top item in my mind being the Canadians! I will say there was an even closer bond back in the day between the Canadians and us Yanks, as they had one very important thing in common - they were all victorious Allies who fought in WWII. On the brighter side, your long gun registry is or soon will be history, so progress is being made. A tip of the hat to PM Stephen Harper and a conservative government for that!
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American journalism has always been the play ground of the left. Look up John Reed, for example, the openly communist writer in the 1920s.
Walter Cronkite, David Brinkley, Eric Sevareid, and a host of others in the fifties and sixties were anti American, pro communist, and devoid of any objectivity. They were all activists, eager to turn American into a socialist, Soviet aligned state.
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It is really simple Bob, they are bought & paid for by the liberals. The smaller more independent sources like true local papers and non affiliated (damn few of these) TV & Radio outlets are often VERY refreshing. Just another reason I watch so little TV and only listen to a couple of local stations on the radio.
Our local paper still has Mallard Fillmore as one of the dailies, if he disappears I will cancel my subscription!
George Orwell was a Prophet, not a novelist. Read 1984 and then look around you!
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It is really simple Bob, they are bought & paid for by the liberals. The smaller more independent sources like true local papers and non affiliated (damn few of these) TV & Radio outlets are often VERY refreshing. Just another reason I watch so little TV and only listen to a couple of local stations on the radio.
Our local paper still has Mallard Fillmore as one of the dailies, if he disappears I will cancel my subscription! Gotta love the Duck. Bear
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From Gingrich to Romney to Tebow -- Why is the media so out of touch with America?
By Liz Peek
Published January 20, 2012
FoxNews.com
Newt Gingrich instantly brought the crowd to its feet last night at the last debate before Saturday's all important primary in South Carolina. What was the multitude cheering? Not his stance on tax policy, or on abortion, but rather his acid assault on the �elite media.�
Gingrich expressed outrage that moderator John King of CNN would lead off the evening by asking about potentially damaging charges made by the Speaker�s second wife in an interview with ABC News's "Nightline."
The audience howled its approval as Gingrich tore into the �destructive, vicious, negative nature of much of the news media�� As ever, the former Speaker was brilliant, evading the problematic topic of his personal indiscretions and simultaneously punching a white-hot button launching an assault on what Sarah Palin describes as the �lamestream media.�
Why are so many Americans hostile to our biggest media outlets? Because almost all the major networks and newspapers in this country are operated by liberals while three-quarters of the country describe themselves as moderate or conservative.
This is not a figment of fevered right-wing imagination. A UCLA-led study of major newspapers, TV and radio stations in 2005 concluded that �there is a quantifiable and significant bias� to the left.� Numerous record-keepers have documented that more than 80% of reporters vote for Democrats.
It�s real, it�s there, and it�s infuriating.
It�s especially infuriating when it impacts the way the media presents � and Americans then view GOP candidates.
In this cycle, President Obama is vulnerable � on our continuing high unemployment in particular and because people increasingly view him as not sharing traditional American values. The sympathetic the media is worried. Consequently, they have launched an all-out offensive against GOP candidates, especially targeting front-runner Romney and surging Newt Gingrich.
When it comes to Romney much of the withering criticism has nothing to do with policy, but focuses instead on the former Massachusetts governor's apparently infuriating wholesomeness.
In the New York Times last weekend, this irritation was on full display. Columnist Maureen Dowd makes fun of the young Romney�s affection for �The Sound of Music� (what is it about that musical that so annoys the left?) and disregard for The Grateful Dead.
She describes him as living in a �non-drinking, nonsmoking, suburban, uxorious bubble with Ann, revolving around Mormon rituals, Mormon couples, and the Mormon credo of strong, heterosexual, traditional families.� (In case you wondered, that�s meant to be a criticism.) �Uxorious� means having an excessive fondness for one�s wife � something that Ms. Dowd finds unacceptable.
She should know that rampant divorce and children born out of wedlock cost our country an estimated $112 billion in 2008; chances are the recession has driven that figure above $150 billion. Heads up- there are worse things than the enduring family.
In the same paper, Lee Siegel describes Romney as �the whitest man to run for president in recent memory.� In case that one leaves you scratching your head, Siegel explains that he means �the countless subtle and not-so-subtle ways he telegraphs that he is the cultural alternative to America�s first black president. It is a whiteness grounded in a retro vision of the country, one of white picket fences and stay-at-home moms and fathers unashamed of working hard for corporate America.�
He derides Romney for being �implacably polite, tossing off phrases like �oh gosh� with Stepford bonhomie.� In other words, shame on Romney for his decency, for having been happily married to Ann for decades and for earning a living. More important, shame on him for imagining that a great many Americans might aspire to do the same.
Are these columnists and the rest of the "mainstream media" really focusing on the concerns of American voters? The very voters who fear taxes will go up because of reckless handouts to public employee unions, see their tax dollars squandered on bankrupt Solyndra, worry that ObamaCare will limit our health care choices, see their kids� schools failing to ready them for college or for the workplace, watch as the national debt soars to unprecedented levels, see job opportunities blown because Obama wants to court environmentalists? No, memo to Maureen Dowd, most voters are not worrying that Mitt Romney is too attentive to his wife.
The media does not limit its snark attacks to GOP candidates. Take Tim Tebow. Like a number of GOP candidates, Tebow espouses traditional values and is a devout Christian, inspiring ridicule on both counts.
Andrew Sharp, a contributor to SBNation.com, wrote before last week�s playoff game �instead of an icon to hard work and humility or a football player that's fun to watch play football, for a week at least, he's the walking, kneeling reminder of just how completely f**king insane America can be sometimes.�
What really drives Sharp nuts is that 43% of Americans trace Tim Tebow�s success to divine intervention ��the insane fans who think he's Jesus Christ in a flak jacket.�
Yes, Americans may have gone a little loopy over Tebow, but so what? These are tough times, and if people find inspiration in a clean-living, spiritual and charitable young man who can occasionally pull off surprising wins, bully for them and for him.
The media has focused on Mr. Romney, since he is in the lead, and because he is viewed as most likely to attract the all-important independent voters who elected Mr. Obama but who are deserting him in droves. That focus could shift, if someone else clinches the nomination. What will not shift is the incessant ridicule of GOP values and standards from the left.
Let us hope voters are not swayed.
I've always thought the mark of a great journalist was not being able to tell his political beliefs. Whether he/she is conservative or liberal should matter not, they should be professional at their craft, that listeners have no idea.
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Media is bought and paid for...by both sides of the isle....
No such thing as "free press"....more like agenda press.
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Far right thinking (as well as far left thinking) is often accompanied by rigidity of thought. Ideologues can't be swayed. Only moderates perceive nuances.
Feelings of persecution often exist among people who perceive that their own opinions as being ignored.
The media will always seem to be "liberal" - at least to those who view the world in black and white terms.
It'll never change - and that is because the media will always show our world to be an infinite continuum of shades of grey - just as it really is.
Those who hold rigid beliefs - will always be anti-media. Just as they are usually "anti-choice" in most other opinions they hold.
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There is a part of America that the media is very much in touch with.
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Opinion
From Gingrich to Romney to Tebow -- Why is the media so out of touch with America?
By Liz Peek
Published January 20, 2012
FoxNews.com
Newt Gingrich instantly brought the crowd to its feet last night at the last debate before Saturday's all important primary in South Carolina. What was the multitude cheering? Not his stance on tax policy, or on abortion, but rather his acid assault on the �elite media.�
Gingrich expressed outrage that moderator John King of CNN would lead off the evening by asking about potentially damaging charges made by the Speaker�s second wife in an interview with ABC News's "Nightline."
The audience howled its approval as Gingrich tore into the �destructive, vicious, negative nature of much of the news media�� As ever, the former Speaker was brilliant, evading the problematic topic of his personal indiscretions and simultaneously punching a white-hot button launching an assault on what Sarah Palin describes as the �lamestream media.�
Why are so many Americans hostile to our biggest media outlets? Because almost all the major networks and newspapers in this country are operated by liberals while three-quarters of the country describe themselves as moderate or conservative.
This is not a figment of fevered right-wing imagination. A UCLA-led study of major newspapers, TV and radio stations in 2005 concluded that �there is a quantifiable and significant bias� to the left.� Numerous record-keepers have documented that more than 80% of reporters vote for Democrats.
It�s real, it�s there, and it�s infuriating.
It�s especially infuriating when it impacts the way the media presents � and Americans then view GOP candidates.
In this cycle, President Obama is vulnerable � on our continuing high unemployment in particular and because people increasingly view him as not sharing traditional American values. The sympathetic the media is worried. Consequently, they have launched an all-out offensive against GOP candidates, especially targeting front-runner Romney and surging Newt Gingrich.
When it comes to Romney much of the withering criticism has nothing to do with policy, but focuses instead on the former Massachusetts governor's apparently infuriating wholesomeness.
In the New York Times last weekend, this irritation was on full display. Columnist Maureen Dowd makes fun of the young Romney�s affection for �The Sound of Music� (what is it about that musical that so annoys the left?) and disregard for The Grateful Dead.
She describes him as living in a �non-drinking, nonsmoking, suburban, uxorious bubble with Ann, revolving around Mormon rituals, Mormon couples, and the Mormon credo of strong, heterosexual, traditional families.� (In case you wondered, that�s meant to be a criticism.) �Uxorious� means having an excessive fondness for one�s wife � something that Ms. Dowd finds unacceptable.
She should know that rampant divorce and children born out of wedlock cost our country an estimated $112 billion in 2008; chances are the recession has driven that figure above $150 billion. Heads up- there are worse things than the enduring family.
In the same paper, Lee Siegel describes Romney as �the whitest man to run for president in recent memory.� In case that one leaves you scratching your head, Siegel explains that he means �the countless subtle and not-so-subtle ways he telegraphs that he is the cultural alternative to America�s first black president. It is a whiteness grounded in a retro vision of the country, one of white picket fences and stay-at-home moms and fathers unashamed of working hard for corporate America.�
He derides Romney for being �implacably polite, tossing off phrases like �oh gosh� with Stepford bonhomie.� In other words, shame on Romney for his decency, for having been happily married to Ann for decades and for earning a living. More important, shame on him for imagining that a great many Americans might aspire to do the same.
Are these columnists and the rest of the "mainstream media" really focusing on the concerns of American voters? The very voters who fear taxes will go up because of reckless handouts to public employee unions, see their tax dollars squandered on bankrupt Solyndra, worry that ObamaCare will limit our health care choices, see their kids� schools failing to ready them for college or for the workplace, watch as the national debt soars to unprecedented levels, see job opportunities blown because Obama wants to court environmentalists? No, memo to Maureen Dowd, most voters are not worrying that Mitt Romney is too attentive to his wife.
The media does not limit its snark attacks to GOP candidates. Take Tim Tebow. Like a number of GOP candidates, Tebow espouses traditional values and is a devout Christian, inspiring ridicule on both counts.
Andrew Sharp, a contributor to SBNation.com, wrote before last week�s playoff game �instead of an icon to hard work and humility or a football player that's fun to watch play football, for a week at least, he's the walking, kneeling reminder of just how completely f**king insane America can be sometimes.�
What really drives Sharp nuts is that 43% of Americans trace Tim Tebow�s success to divine intervention ��the insane fans who think he's Jesus Christ in a flak jacket.�
Yes, Americans may have gone a little loopy over Tebow, but so what? These are tough times, and if people find inspiration in a clean-living, spiritual and charitable young man who can occasionally pull off surprising wins, bully for them and for him.
The media has focused on Mr. Romney, since he is in the lead, and because he is viewed as most likely to attract the all-important independent voters who elected Mr. Obama but who are deserting him in droves. That focus could shift, if someone else clinches the nomination. What will not shift is the incessant ridicule of GOP values and standards from the left.
Let us hope voters are not swayed.
I've always thought the mark of a great journalist was not being able to tell his political beliefs. Whether he/she is conservative or liberal should matter not, they should be professional at their craft, that listeners have no idea. Barkoff, I often have to take what I hear from others and word it in my own, hillbilly vernacular. I agree with you, wholeheartedly, and in my head it sounds like this: "If I can tell who you are pulling for, you aren't trying hard enough." Effective journalism, in my simplistic opinion, should be neutral. I no longer watch Fox news, and have long since stopped watching the rest since they have all chosen sides. It would be so refreshing to have one source who would play it down the middle. The problem is, that playing it down the middle is not the easy thing to do. Doing the right thing, rarely is.
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The first step Hitler took, was to take control of the media.
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Those who hold rigid beliefs - will always be anti-media. Just as they are usually "anti-choice" in most other opinions they hold.
Agreed, I see this from the left and from right.
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yeah? can you point me to some right wing mass media outlets?
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Isaac,
I'm shocked you would have the temerity to criticize big business. My friend, they are rich, therefore they know more than you do. They are interested in changing the conditions in this country for their own benefit, it is what free people do.
You should try bettering yourself, and quit criticizing the wealthy in this country, who are the job creators, and the money makers.
Maybe you could go to night school, and better yourself. The constant class warfare, and jealous criticism of those that have more than you is sickening, and un-American.
A real conservative would NEVER criticize the wealthy, or the corporations they control. May I remind you Sir, this is AMERICA and CORPORATIONS ARE PEOPLE TOO!
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Having a bad self esteem day,Syc?
The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; the realist adjusts the sails.
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Someone has to keep you OWS types in line, the way you keep criticizing the wealthy, implying they don't know what's best for the rest of us.
Your class-warfare is shocking!
Sycamore
ps, its winter time now, leave the park, go to your parents house, take a shower and look for a job. no more occupy for you!
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Why is the media so out of touch with America?
The media has always been leftist, at least in my lifetime. The difference now is that we have so many other outlets for news that the mainstream media cannot control, and it drives them nuts. The internet being the main outlet, it's revolutionized the way news is spread and taken away the filtering ability of the major news outlets, no longer can they put their spin on things and not get called on it. In the past if Walter Cronkite presented the news in a slanted way designed to engage sympathy for his leftist viewpoint you really didn't have any way of knowing you were being manipulated, now within a few seconds the internet lights up and you get the real truth. Remember the story a year or so ago about how most of the crime scene guns in Mexico supposedly came from the U.S.? If you were the normal american joe blow you'd take it as truth since it was repeated from virtually every U.S. media source and it would have been etched into your brain as another supposed "truth". Thanks to the internet allowing normal people to bypass the MSM that story was eventually revealed as the blatant lie it is and it's pretty much disappeared, only being brought up by the most hardcore leftist gun controllers. I don't think the fundamental slant of the MSM has really changed much over the years, it's just that now we have more tools to help us spot it and because of that we're less trusting of them. It pisses us off more now that it's easier to spot.
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yeah? can you point me to some right wing mass media outlets? Fox News you [bleep] idiot.
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Well, practically all of AM radio. Where I live it is either right wing or spanish.
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