Home Forums Hunting & Shooting AR and Tactical Rifles Putting some meat in the freezer with my 6.5PCC

Finally got a chance to go deer hunting yesterday, well it was more like deer killing than actually hunting. I was going up the tree in my climber, half way up, I hear something crashing through the clear-cut, and there is a small buck chasing a doe, normally my gun would be on the ground with the strap retriever attached, but I forgot to bring it, so as luck would have it, the Patriot was slung across my chest.
I am hunting with a buddy on a small tract of land, and my buddy told me "we are not trophy hunting, if it's brown, it's down", okey dokey.
I chambered a round, got on him, and whistled to stop him, no response, still trotting after the doe, then I yelled, still trotting. It was a pretty good poke across the clear-cut on a running deer, I had guessed 200 yards, so I got the cross-hairs on his chest then moved it forward to the front edge of his throat to compensate for him trotting, squeezed the trigger. He dropped like a wet rag.
The doe ran another thirty or forty yards, stopped and looked back to see what happened to her boyfriend, ( it is always the second look that gets you in trouble) that was her last mistake, poked a hole through her lungs. She ran off and crashed, I am sitting there all proud of myself thinking "that was easy", and look over to where the buck dropped, and dang if he ain't up and walking away. I decided I had better anchor him, and poked a hole in his lungs.
My first shot on the buck hit him right where I was aiming, front edge of his throat, almost missed him. It must have stunned him, because he should not have dropped like he did from that shot, but I learned long ago that the only thing predictable about shooting animals, is they are unpredictable.

After the excitement, I ranged both shots, 217 yards on the buck, and 242 yards on the doe.

The 100 gr partition performed perfectly out of my 6.5PCC. Great golf ball sized exit wounds, good blood trail, completely destroyed the lungs and hearts.

They are gonna eat good.

Meat in the freezer with your AR! Sweet!

Very nice! Not familiar with the cartridge?

I'm not either....expound please.

If I had to guess - 6PPC necked to .264?

Guys,
The cartridge Wolverine is talking about is the 5.56/223 necked up with the neck trimed to fit standard AR mags. I'm sure Wolverine will chime in with more detail as it is another fellow and his creation. I purchased a set of dies and a barrel and will begin testing mine this spring, can't wait. From the load data I received with my purchase it looks like with a 100 gr. bullet you can get 2800+ fps from a 20" barrel. Think 250 Savage in a standard AR 15 platform with only a barrel change no other specialy parts.

hmmm...that does sound interesting, alright. Who's selling the barrels?

The 6.5PCC (Patriot Combat Cartridge) is a 6.5TCU engineered to work in a AR15. Basically a 223 necked up to 6.5mm. My barrel is a 18" and I have gotten 2441fps with a speer 120gn hot-core, and pushing 2600 fps with the 100 gr.

Black Hole Weaponry is making the barrels with our reamer.

well whatdya know...I once had a 6.5 TC/U Contender barrel; even still have a few loaded rounds laying around.

I'm a little underwhelmed with the .300 Blackout, perhaps this one will be more interesting...

To me, the 300 Blackout is only good if you want to run it subsonic and suppressed. If you want to run supersonic, and hunt with a 30 cal x 223, Kurt's 7.62x40 is the ticket, it will beat the 7.62x39, with better bullet choices.

I just love 6.5, and have thousands of 223 brass lying around, that is why I did the Patriot.

All these things with a 120ish bullet run about 2200 FPS. This wildcat is kind of interesting with its 120 grain, and .5 or so BC and uses standard AR magazines and bolt.

what dies do you use? How much does your barrel weight? A 30 ounce 18 inch SS barrel would be very cool in this cartridge.

I guess "the wolverine" must be another "drive by cartridge salesman"...

jimmyp,
Do not want to jump on Wolverine's toes but having followed this cartridge since it's conception stage on another forum and having purchased both dies and a barrel I can answer some of your questions. The dies are made bt CH4D, barrels are from BHW. As to barrel weight I do not know as I ordered a 20" stainless steel match grade heavy with target crown. I can tell you it is HEAVY.

Sorry, I have been out of town working for a couple days.

Nope, I am not selling anything. I just love ARs, and I am a 6.5 fan. I love to shoot, and hunt with ARs. I have a 6x223, and love it, and thought a 6.5x223 would be even better.

Grizzlyclaus is correct, CH4D did the first run of dies, and Lee is doing the next run. Black Hole Weaponry is doing the barrels, with our reamer. I did not weigh my barrel, but mine is a SPR style 18", and I am sure it is more than 30 ounces. BHW manufactures the barrel in house, from bar stock to finished barrel, and you can get it turned to any profile you want, so I am sure BHW could get a 18" down to 30 ounces.

I have pondered doing a 12" Patriot, to have a lightweight quick handling CQHG, (close quarters hog gun), just not sure I want to go through the hassle of getting the stamp.

Thanks for your help Grizz, you are not stepping on my toes.

Paul

No problem Paul,
Just got the last of my parts to put mine together. Damn out of stock signs kept popping up everywhere as I was ordering the parts I wanted. Go figure 47 years old and I must finally be in step with what's popular. Ha, ha. Assembly begins today and test fire on Thursday/Friday next week if work and Mother Nature cooperate.
Kevin

Thanks to all you guys/members here like my partner Wolverine & GrizzlyClause.

For those that are Interested in the 6.5mm PCC for their AR-15
platform here is the website eith some more Info.

Thanks.

http://illirianengineeringc.ipage.com/65mm--68mm-pcc-pics-video-clips-charts-load-data.html

I'm liking this idea.

Why this over a 6.5 Grendel?

The main advantage is that it is easier/cheaper to load for
vs. the Grendel as it uses very Inexpensive 223 brass and std.
AR-15 components in .223/5.56mm NATO configuration like
the bolt and magazine.

Field testing has shown excellent velocites and accuracy with
4-5 grains less powder vs.the Grendel w/ 85gr.to 120gr.
pills,It however does not mean that the 6.5mm PCC is
equal to the Grendel because it was not desiged to be,
however, the PCC does come fairly close...The reason
why the PCC can do that is that the PCC can safely run
at higher pressure than the Grendel as it uses
Mil-Spec. 223/5.56mm NATO bolts and It's cutom throated.

So all you need to convert your std. 223/5.56mm AR is a barrel
change and a new die set, all the other parts are the same.

Best Regards,
Dr69er