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looking to get a target rifle. 20" barrel or 26"? my gut tells me to go with the 26". but a lot of people have told me it doesn't matter. any thoughts?

http://www.remington.com/products/f...0/model-700-xcr-tactical-long-range.aspx

http://www.remington.com/products/firearms/centerfire/model-700/model-700-sps-tactical.aspx

Define target.

figure out at what range you want to operate at and what your intended target will be. then decide on the cartridge you want and how much skill do you really have. i don't believe a 223 with a 70 grain bullet out of a 20 inch barrel will still be supersonic at 1000 yards. could you still hit your intended target , yes but it would be easier with a different combination.

Have a look at the guns being shot by the guys who take their range shooting seriously - their barrels will all be long. That is probably all you need to know. For other applications, short barrels can make some sense, but not for a range rifle.

What caliber? If I wanted to try 1000yd targets with a .308 I would opt for the 26" model. If it was going to be a .223 I would buy the 20" model.

Personally I would bypass both of these and look at the Remington model "milspec 5R" line of non catalogged rifles. They come in .223, .308 and .300WM. I bought one (.308)a few years ago and it's the most accurate rifle I've ever owned, customs included. Everytime I see one at the range the shooter has a smile on his face.

Terry

the intended target will be clay pigeons, pop cans, beer bottles, paper targets, milk jugs, anything really. the intended range, 200-300 yds. i'm leaning towards the 308, not the 223 if i go with the short barrel. and the 300 if i go with the long barrel.

i know the 308 is cheaper, but why the F not get the 300. unless someone with more experience (you guys) can justify either one.

For me the 300 just isn't as much fun to shoot as the .308. Accuracy and recoil being the main factors.

The .223 in 20" is the way to go.

308 will be more accurate & a lot more pleasant to shoot, particularly if you plan on shooting a lot. More pleasant for the shooter and anyone else nearby. The 300 doesn't bring any advantage to the table at 2-300 yards over the 308, unless you want to develop your flinch.

i never shoot a 300WM.

i have to sell all my motorcycle racing gear and bikes. i jacked my back up at work, and get spasms sometimes. so, dragging a knee at 95mph, and risk getting a spasm is not a good thing. so, i need to replace bikes with something else. i have always enjoyed shooting. and i have always wanted a "sniper, tactical, target" rifle. the wife says, "what are you going to do with money?" i told her, "i bought that crap before we were married, and i'm going to buy my target rifle."

I'd kind of like a Hvy 308, would go with a SPS Varm that's 26" from the get go and would most likely abbreviate it to 23".

Dober

Go with the SPS Tactical 223. It will do anything you have listed on the cheap. Recoil and muzzle blast won't be an issue, and you can always upgrade later. Stay away from the 300.

does anyone else know anything about this milspec 5R? did some reading on it today. i am interested.

some dumb questions. why do bull barrels make the rifle more accurate? heat dissipation? can i shoot more than 3 without having to sit there and wait for the barrel to cool?

The milspec 5R are the civilian version of the M24( I think....)only in stainless....set in a H-S Precision stock, what used to be called the PSS ( Police Sniper...)They are stone cold shooters...
The heavy barrel means a stiffer barrel...stiffer = les vibration=more accuracy...

The Milspec 5R's are amazingly accurate. There really is nothing "milspec" about them though.

I've heard all sorts of things about them like they are trued at the custom shop etc. I don't think any of it is varified. All I can say for sure is they are stone cold accurate. I've shot so many sub .50" groups with mine I've lost count. So far my best is .19" 5 shots at 100yds.

The nice thing about them is everyone I've ever talked to that owned one had nothing but praise for it so they must be pretty consistant.

Terry

the reading i did, there seems to be some speculation on the barrels. some say they are out of spec M24 barrels, that get worked, etc.

what about this special run once a year? what do you know about that?

any other suggestions from anyone?

ingwe, thats what i thought about the bull barrels. i just wanted to double check.

how many rounds can you rip thru before you have to wait for the barrel to cool?

I'm on the same track but a different stop.

For a 1K yrd rifle I would want a rifle with a 26 inch Heavy barrel in a 300WSM or 300 Win (minimum).

But unless you were gonna compete I just don't see the need.

I can�t see hunting at 600-1K yards.


Just Me


Snake

It's like I said, rumors run wild when it comes to these. I don't believe most of them as the M24 was never chambered in .223 but they have a "milspec" 5R .223.



It's just a non cataloged item with a limited run and they usually sell out very quickly.



Lots of factors to this question. This time of year you can shoot all day. Later in the summer I would let it cool between 5 shot groups or develope a way to cool the barrel. I personally squirt ice water down mine. One thing to remember is not only do the groups open up with a hot barrel but it also causes much more wear on the throat shooting it hot.

Best of luck,
Terry

If I was looking for an accurate, turn-key rifle for -500 yards.
I would look REAL hard at the Remington 700 SPS Tactical in .223 Remington. It twisted 1:9" and will stabilize 75 AMAXs. The stock is fair from the factory, but I would likely upgrade the stock. Then spend the rest of my budget on glass.

The .223 Rem. is cheap to shoot whether you load your own or not, and there is an amazing abundance of very good quality ammo. If you decide later you want a tad more it easy enough to bump it up to .223 AI

5 R Milspec will be my next purchase in 308 winchester! They have a special rifling in the barrel only available to the milspec and a 11 degree crown for shooting is about what I have read and heard about them.

I just purchased a 223 Tactical SPS and haven't got a chance to go to the range yet. The older ones had a 1:12 twist while the newer ones have a 1:9 twist. I haven't checked my twist in the gun but hope it has the 1:9. I won't be shooting a 1000 yards with it but it will be a handy varmint/target rifle to 300 yards for me.