Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunting Rifles Remington 700 vs Winchester model 70

Ive got them both too toad, but it seems the Remingtons get the bulk of the use....but they get the bulk of the modification to get them the way I like them too....

Where's Swampy when you need him?

When have we ever needed him?

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For me the Model 70 is the easy pick.

I'd buy the Remchester.

"When have we ever needed him?". Be nice,now.

Remingtons have the bulk of after market stuff for that reason alone I would pick the Remington. Having said that I do own both.

I hunted with nothing but a Remington from 1974 up until a few years ago. I now much prefer Winchester. I have nothing against Remington, think they make a good rifle, but right now they aren't making anyhing I'd want.

I've owned both too and am down to wichester model 70's now. I'd choose a ruger hawkeye over the rem 700 also....

I prefer 700's to M70's primarily due to the vaunted M70 safety which I dislike.

I'd be looking for an early 700 KS.

I've shot a pile of both and they are both good. Both have pros and cons. It's a personal preference just like a truck as mentioned. The Win safety is just not for me, I hate M70 and M77 safeties. My safe is full of 700s primarily for that reason. I do prefer the old design M70 trigger to the 700 triggers, but both are easy to adjust.

Wow, I thought I was the only one!

I'm not a fan of the M70 safety either. That being said I do own a couple. If I were buying a NIB current offering and had to choose between the two it would be M70 Featherweight.

I would go model 70 anyday. I have the older model remingtons and they are great. I bought a new 700 7mm o8 and it went down the road really quick just bought a Model 70 feather weight and I am very happy with it.

The preoccupation with swing safeties is an very american thing - i 'spose a M70 legacy. They are as american as apple pie. I have always found them a bit awkward (due to a fractured thumb and subsequent arthritis), but i think it would be safe to say that if i polled amongst those i've shot with over the years the swing safety is one of the most cited criticisms of the Ruger and Winchester. It isn't a big thing and i don't think i have ever met anyone who absolutely hated the swing safety, but it certainly isn't a popular feature in my part of the world - and i wonder if it has contributed to the failure of Winchester to compete with Remington here. Most hunters definitely prefer a simple push forward design rather than the swing design. If you have a look at some of the stuff published by native-born African PHs, it is probably the most commonly cited criticism of both rifles as a DGR (if you read american-born hunters, they will give you a very different opinion, but then most would have grown up with swings). If you have always used them, they are just second nature to you and you'll never think about it. For those of us who grew up with other safeties, sometimes they can seem a little awkward to learn to use quickly. Of course, if that is their biggest failing, then there isn't much wrong with them. And the Remington safety has certainly had more than its fair share of failings.

I know you asked about only two, and I don't mean to be obtuse, but I'd suggest you shoulder one more before you spend your money, especially if you like some of the attributes of the M70.

Whether you want wood and blue or stainless and synthetic, or some combo thereof, I think Kimber beats them both right now.

There are some detractors who point to spotty accuracy, but I think QC is much better at this point, and if you get a good one, you'll be glad you took time to shoulder one more, especially if you are at all interested in a light weight rig.

DJ

I would buy a Winchester over the M700 even if the M70 cost $150 more than a M700.

I have heard (secondhand info, I know, so take it with a grain of salt) of a fair number of XCR IIs with extractor problems. I consider that model to be one of the more high end Remingtons.

Ok, by request!

Remington 700's are the most accurate rifles out of the box.
When this was proven we don't know.

The US military and police use M 700 sniper rifles.
The Police use Dodge Chargers for police cars but you can't buy the same cars off the show room floor.

Push feed rifles are more accurate.
They can be. The difference in a big game hunting rifle is almost nil.

Remington M 700's have three (count them 3) rings of steel.
A marketing ploy by Remington to cover up the fact the extractor is a cheap, flimsy POS that happens to work quite well (for a cheap, flimsy POS)
I feel I'm entitled to say it because I have two Remington Rifles. Neither are a 700 but have the POS stamped steel extractor.