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Not a used one -

Just for rebarrel ing and blue printing, which maker and type and why.

I'm more interested in thoughts on critical feature sets and function thoughts from experienced guys than a exact model, so why tht one is important.


- why did I say "new", I'm thinking that a new one won't be beat up, and will likely be more accurate. Maybe I can get around those buy being picky and patient, not sure but I am sure it won't be an issue if I go with a good new one.

Educate the newbie with very little experience if any.

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The main things I would look for was a headstock diameter of at least 1.5" or more, a low speed capability of 60rpm, a bed of at least 40" long and a geared head - not belt driven.. MT-3 tools, quick-change tool-head and a good splash-guard..

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Find the heaviest one you can afford....with rednecks numbers as a minimum.


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I would not buy something that runs on any kind of primer given the possibility of primer shortages and even regulations. In fact, why not buy a flintlock? Really. Rocks aren't going away anytime soon.
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You also might as well budget a bison chuck right now too. New scroll chucks that come on lathes a working man can afford will drive you bonkers.


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I would not buy something that runs on any kind of primer given the possibility of primer shortages and even regulations. In fact, why not buy a flintlock? Really. Rocks aren't going away anytime soon.
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You also might as well budget a bison chuck right now too. New scroll chucks that come on lathes a working man can afford will drive you bonkers.

I bought a 3 jaw adjustable chuck with both my lathes and finally went to my 4 jaw modified with 1/2 inch copper rods in the jaws for all my chambering. It's easier and faster than trying to dial in the 3 jaw adjustable.

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The value of a Grizzly lathe is hard to beat.

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Originally Posted by MColeman
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You also might as well budget a bison chuck right now too. New scroll chucks that come on lathes a working man can afford will drive you bonkers.

I bought a 3 jaw adjustable chuck with both my lathes and finally went to my 4 jaw modified with 1/2 inch copper rods in the jaws for all my chambering. It's easier and faster than trying to dial in the 3 jaw adjustable.


I use my 3-jaw only about 25% of the time, for odd things.. But never for chambering a rifle - that's strictly a 4-jaw necessity..


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I like my Jet Lathe and would never consider cambering a barrel from the three jaw that was supplied with it. I always use the four jaw. I looked at the Grizzly lathe when i purchased, but the one i liked was a three phase and the Jet 14x40 was a Single Phase and i wasn't buying but for personal use so went with the Single Phase Jet. It has worked great for my use.

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Originally Posted by Redneck
Originally Posted by MColeman
Originally Posted by high_country_
You also might as well budget a bison chuck right now too. New scroll chucks that come on lathes a working man can afford will drive you bonkers.

I bought a 3 jaw adjustable chuck with both my lathes and finally went to my 4 jaw modified with 1/2 inch copper rods in the jaws for all my chambering. It's easier and faster than trying to dial in the 3 jaw adjustable.


I use my 3-jaw only about 25% of the time, for odd things.. But never for chambering a rifle - that's strictly a 4-jaw necessity..


100% agree. I find the import 3 jaws to be great for material wasting and not much more. A good scroll saves a ton of time when building odd parts and such. The first month that he spends on the machine will likely be turning jigs and such....kinda nice to a halfway true chuck for that.


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I would not buy something that runs on any kind of primer given the possibility of primer shortages and even regulations. In fact, why not buy a flintlock? Really. Rocks aren't going away anytime soon.
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Good advice from everyone above. You also need to look at the dimension through the headstock if you plan to set up barrels clamped in the chuck with a spyder on the outboard end. If this gets to be too long you will not be able to do short barrels without some additional fixturing.

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The spider i made work great for cutting Chambers from the head stock but with short barrels i have cut my chamber using the steady rest.


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Don't be too quick to write off the older lathes. I use a 60's Rockwell/Delta and it is tight. Old American lathes were built to last. You just have to find one that was well maintained and taken care of.

Instead of a 3 jaw, look for a 6 jaw Buck chuck. I use it about as much as my 4 jaw.

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I don't do enough lathe work to make it worth the cost to invest in the Buck Chuck


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I managed to come up with a tool room South bend 14 1/2 it will bed 60 inches. But the spindle bore is only 1 1/8 so go for at least 1 1/2 spindle bore. The only way a scroll three jaw is going to be accurate is if it's jaw are ground on the lathe using a standard ring. I do 99% of my work with an independent 3 jaw. For small parts I dial in a 3 inch 3 jaw in my 10 inch 4 jaw

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Sounds like you have a nice lathe


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I very seldom use my Bison Tru Adjust 6 jaw. I have a Cushman 3 jaw that I use mostly, my collets, and My Bison 4 jaw. The 6 jaw does give better holding ability.

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Originally Posted by bea175
I don't do enough lathe work to make it worth the cost to invest in the Buck Chuck


I don't either. I got a smokin deal on one and it was just a no brainer to pick it up. $60 if I recall.

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For 8 years I have cut chambers and threads.
I am on my 4th lathe.

Any new lathe made in china that is at least 12x36 will be good enough.

DRO sure is nice.


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I have a nardini 12 x30. Three phase but easily converted a single phase motor to work as a phase converter. Capable of higher precision than i am. Is very smooth and cuts metric and standard thread.is long enough unless one intends to cut barrel tapers on longer barrels.Is very comfortable to work over. I use a four jaw thread and chamber. Sometimes in a steady rest and sometimes in the headstock. Grizzly makes a gunsmith lathe that is demoes on u tube. Is an import but looks decent


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