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I can get an older Rem BDL for about $450 so chambered. Factory SA rifle.

How's feeding? How fast will they run 225's, 250's?

My own brief experience - feeds fine from a model 7, like crap from a ruger SS. 2.8" box hurts a bit, but can be made to work. 225 NP and 200 barnes are about the only things you can seat to the lands worth hunting with. 250 RN and SP hornadys work fine but wouldn't reach lands in the 7. BT or Accubomb won't work unless you cut off the tip, which is quite easy.

250 hornadys of either flavor work fine on moose.

You should get 2700+ with 225s and close to 2600 with 250s using R15.

Assuming the same magazine length as my Rem 673...2.8", you can feed 225 gr TSX bullets.

I run them at 2800 fps using TAC powder. From a 22" barrel.

I'm not interested in running 250's....save them for my 35 whelens. The Rem'S 1 in 16 twist pretty much is limited to 250 grainers or lighter (shorter).

Thanks. I use a .358 for deer so I'm a fan of the .35's.

Appreciate the load info.

I have a Feb 1969 built 700BDL in 350 Rem Mag with 24"bbl. I have no problems with feeding and 225gn bullets achieve 2700fps with a healthy dose of IMR4895,H4895,IMR4320 or W748

I changed the old Fluer-de-lis chequered stock to a more appealing mid 70's stock.

I'd say grab it, wrap a Ti take off around it and cut the tube to 21" and go fill some arks!

Dober

I'd check to see how loud the safety is and go from there.


Travis

Jeff

My 700 .350 is one of the most consistently accurate rifles I have with 225 NP and IMR4895. No feeding issues.

WN

i love the 350. i have a rem 600 and it is a one-holer with factory 200 gr corelokts. the 250's are the same. deer drop like they were sledged.

22" 350 RM, 250 went 2,630 with RL15.

I like that plan.

JeffO,

pm.

Nice, fat bullets at moderate velocities and recoil. What's not to like?

Yeah, this has the stock you describe and the (nice, quiet, lol) safety locks the bolt. So it's pretty old.

Thats a good looking rifle,enjoy. I got back in the 350 Mag thing myself!They are fun to shoot.

..in case you missed this over on the Big Bore board...

https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbth...os_and_Cons_about_the_350_Re#Post6010040

Bob

$450... wow, that's a steal. I have mine now in a Ti stock and I have to say it's the handiest rifle I think I own. It does have the classic 22" barrel too.

Jeff,
I looked at the same rifle on River road ....it almost went home with me, Ididn't like the 24" tube
I run a Ruger in a 350 RM with a 18" tube ...love it

Buy it and report back.You can get close to 2800 with TAC & mag. primers.After a bedding job,my model 7 CDL became very accurate.Dropped it into a High Tech with pillars.

You realize that $450 will buy you 1 buck and 2 doe pronghorn tags in WY right? That'd be a good place to use that 7 WSM...

Pointer has a... point!

Im suprised the Ruger Hawkeye in 350RM never caught on.

One sold on GB a few weeks back for over $1000.

Very nice!

Buy it only if you want to put your .358 Win out of business.

CDNN had the stainless/synthetic Hawkeyes in 350RM and
280 Rem on close out a couple of months ago for alot less
than that.

I've had two .350's, a Remington 700 Classic and a Ruger 77 Mark II. The 700 fed rounds easily, the 77 took half of day of work to get it to feed reliably, though half as smoothly as the 700. (There are reasons for this, aside from individual rifles, but we don't need to go into them here.)

Ramshot TAC works great in the .350 with any bullet over 200 grains, with higher velocities than about any other powder, and equal accuracy. The 200's won't shoot any flatter than 225's, despite higher muzzle velocity, even at 250-300 yards, but do kick less.

Correction on the CDNN closeout on Hawkeyes, the calibers
were 338Fed, 358Win, and 280 Rem for $529. No 350RM mentioned
in the advertisement.

...made the mistake of looking at GunRunner Auctions....and have this one coming...

http://www.gunrunnerauctions.com/listings/details/index.cfm?itemnum=1013224794

Bob

I'm confused RJM - the 600 was discontinued in 1968, was it not? That receiver looks stainless... window dressing?

That's an interesting piece! Someone went to a lot of trouble to create the rib. If you take it out of the stock please let us know whom the manufacturer is. Looks like it was Cerakoted.

Here's a couple for you guys that like pictures.

Top 35 Remington, Bottom 350 Remington Mag

I think it is going to be hard chrome....the whole gun. If Scott, the auction company owner, is correct and that is a 21" barrel then someone put a LOT of money into that gun.

One reason I think it sold for as low as it did is the muzzle break. I'll bet there would have been more bidders if was it wasn't there...

I am just wondering if the stock is plastic, Kevlar, fiberglass... Wonder if it will have any markings inside...

Bob

Perhaps it's a "Remington 673 Guide" barrel fitted to a 600 action? That would make more sense than a custom 21" barrel and rib. The stock looks to be an HS Precision and I betcha the metal was Cerakoted.

That and how to get the box open!

The finish could be French Gray which is a form of nickel plating. It's supposed to be a pretty tough finish. Check with E.A. Brown.

..just got an email that the gun was shipped at 1600 CST....

I once saw a custom 600/.308 from Brown that had a Brown lightweight fiberglass stock, the rib removed, holes plugged and finished flush and was possibly done in that French Gray finish.

It just didn't balance/come up right for me is the reason I passed it. It sat at that dealers for over a year before someone bought it...

..a 673 barrel...I never thought of that.... Well I should know Saturday when I hopefully pick up the gun...

Bob

Bob

I just pulled pics for 600s and the 673...guess what...neither of the end of the barrel rib profiles match the custom gun's rib..

Am beginning to believe that if this is a 21" barrel then the barrel and rib may be custom or the barrel is a cut down and ported 673 barrel with a custom rib.....

Bob

Not as fast as a 358-WSM will...

Just looked at the HS Precision stocks for the Remington 600/660....I think you may be right. The pistol grip contour is the same as is the forend.... I had forgotten about them...thanks for the tip.

https://www.hsprecision.com/shop2/pss020.html


Bob

....well...the gun arrived in less than 48 hours...it is a 100% custom gun. The only thing that is stock is the receiver.

I have not pulled the receiver from the stock yet so I don't know if the maker is marked inside. The barrel is custom as is the aluminum rib. The porting goes all the way around. I will try and determine the twist rate....

The trigger is wider than stock and breaks about 2.5#...will put a gauge on it soon as well as weighing it.

The only PINA is that the two front receiver scope base screws have been opened up to I believe #8s...so that will have to be dealt with....

Overall a very nice gun for the money...now if it will only shoot...

Bob

....., and PINA is an acronym for? Congrats on the great grab! Show us some better pictures.
DMc

...pain in the arse..... I'll have to drill the two forward screw holes in the base and make custom length screws....

Pics coming...the ones in the link above are very accurate however...

Bob

Well...I took the gun apart today and did some measuring...

Stock appears to be Kevlar as with the pad and bedding and the little bit of cloth showing through where a little sanding was done in the barrel channel, it only weighs 1 pound 12 oz. So it can't be a McMillian as they are well over 2 pounds... The bedding is very nicely done including the rear tang which is required for the .350...

Barrel...is 21" long but the last 1.75" is actually an unrifled compensator. So it is actually between 19.25 and 19.5" long. The twist is 1/12. Diameter at the muzzle is 0.65".

Weight of the barreled action with aluminum triggerguard in place was 4 pounds 13 oz.

When I reassembled the rifle total weight was 6 pounds 7 oz. vs. 6 pounds 9 oz. for the two pieces weighed separately...so it is a 6.5 pound rifle bare...no scope, base, rings or sling.

http://www.gunrunnerauctions.com/listings/details/index.cfm?itemnum=1013224794



To compare:

Remington Custom Shop 7KS
Butler Creek Mountain Sling
1.75-6 Leupold
Butler Creek flipup caps
Aluminum Weaver base
Leupold steel QRW rings
20" barrel is 0.610 at the muzzle
6 pounds 15 oz. unloaded





Remington 600
Butler Creek Mountain Sling
1.5-5 Leupold
Butler Creek flipup caps
Aluminum Weaver base
Burris QR steel rings
18.5" barrel is 0.625" at the muzzle
7 pounds 15 oz. unloaded
(Pic shows with 30mm tube 1.5-5...has been changed to a standard 1" tube)





Ruger 77/MKII All-Weather
Butler Creek Mountain Sling
1.5-6 Tasco Titan
Butler Creek flipup caps
Warne QR steel rings
NECG Rear sight/Williams front sight base and bead
18.25" barrel is 0.68 at the muzzle
8 pounds 15 oz. unloaded





The only problem I found is that the maker rebored/tapped all the holes in the receiver... Where the standard screw is a #6, now the rear is #8-40 and the front two #10-32s... So I will probably just wait till my smith gets back from Florida in the spring to have the mount professionally put on... Too bad the consignee didn't just leave the base on as it isn't any use to any other rifle....

Bob

Bob, that Ruger 8/15 or 7/15?

Had one and never thought it was heavy. Never weighed it.

You read it correctly...right at 9#...and that is with 3.75" of barrel missing from stock.

I think many people believe they have these six and seven pound rifles and have never weighed them "ready to hunt". And I am not saying these ultralights don't exist because they do....but off the shelf rifles, unless it is something like a Montana or a NULA, don't weight what people think they do.

Can't tell you the number of times I've read that Model 600s weigh in 6s...and they throw the .350 in there also. Mine is right at 8# dressed. The Ruger GSR is one of the biggest violators. I had to ask the question to several gun writers and posters over on the Ruger Forums before I got one to admit that with scope, rings, sling and 10 round magazine that the rifle weighed over 9#.

The stock on the new custom rifle only weighs 1 pound 12 oz....that is as light as it gets for a short action Kevlar stock, that has been bedded, sling swivel studs and thick recoil pad installed...so where is all the weight? The action is as small as it gets...there is only one other place..the barrel, specifically the barrel contour. Remington is the only maker who will make under a #3 contour for .35 caliber. Firearms44 has talked to several barrel makers about duplicating the Remington Custom Shop contour for his .358 Winchester custom builds and all have refused...#3 is as light as they will go. That is why dressed the M7KS is only a few ounces heavier than the Custom gun is bare... Same action, probably the stocks weigh in just a few ounces apart so the only place left is the barrel. The only place I could save a few ounces would be using aluminum rings instead of steel QD.

Get an electronic fish scale. They are usually accurate enough so you know about what you have... And for a .350 Magnum, a few more ounces isn't exactly a "bad" thing....

Bob

Bob - had a 600/350 - it felt light, but never weighed, also had a 77/SS - and it felt great in hand, not heavy, handled well, and recoil fine esp. considering the Hard rubber pad.

Thanks. Nice 77 btw

RJM...nice looking .350...

the full rib & the satin nickel sure look a good bit like some work i've seen by SSK. have a couple of barrels with their Arrestor muzzle brake, some similarity there too.

I'll have to take a look at that...thanks....

Still wondering who made the stock....

Bob

Curious, so I just weighed My M7 CDL 350 mag.20" barrel. It has a Leup. 3x9 Compact on Talley Quick Detach mounts, The front & rear sights are in place,pillared & bedded in a High Tech stock with a Decelerator pad. Swival studs = 7lbs +- an ounce. on a spring fish scale.

Rem. 660 308,20" barrel,Burris 3x9 Compact, Redfield base & rings. swivals,butt plate = 7.5 lbs.
Rem. M7 308, 18" barrel,Leup. 3x9 Compact,Conetrol base & rings,Bedded in a Brown kevlar pound'r with 1" Decel. pad,swivals & Uncle mike's 1" nylon strap = 6 1/4 lbs.

All the weighing I have done has been on electronic scales...I wonder if scale companies make ones for different groups of people...show 10% high for fisherman, 10% under for backpackers and hunters, for women...never mind...should not go there...

Was just looking over on the MidwayUSA site...they have Nosler .350 RM brass in stock. The Remington is 1/2 the price but they are out with no backorders accepted. Another nice thing that I didn't know anyone made is a Wilson adjustable headspace gauge. This allows those who shoot belted Magnums to adjust the dies to the chamber so the round headspaces on both the belt and shoulder lessening case web stretch. I had one when I shot a Ruger #1 in .375 and it helped a lot...no more guessing setting the dies.

Also it looks like Nosler stopped making their 225 Petition load. It is no longer listed on their site.

Bob

Can not imagine Nosler stopping the 225 Partition. 350 RM and 35 Whelen people would scream bloody murder

orchemo

Found some loading data from my guns...

Remington 700 Classic 22" barrel:

Winchester 748/225 Sierra BTSP
58.0/2340
59.0/2330(?)
60.0/2660
61.0/2710(warm)

Winchester 748/220 Speer HC FP
60.0/2670


H335/225 Sierra BTSP
53.0/2390
54.0/2450
55.0/2500
56.0/2658



Remington 600 18.5" barrel:

Winchester 748/220 Speer HC FP
60.0/2520


Winchester 748/225 Nosler
60.0/2530


Remington 200 grain factory
2670

14.0/700X/160 Hornady Silhouette/1500(great small game getter)



Ruger 77/MKII 18.25" barrel

Winchester 748/250 Hornady RN

54.0/2317
55.0/2353
56.0/2393
57.0/2427
58.0/---
59.0/2470


Winchester 748/250 grain Speer HC
59.0/2466

Winchester 748/250 grain Speer Grand Slam
59.0/2430

Winchester 748/250 Hawk RN
59.0/2460

Turns out I bought my first .350, the 700 Classic in mid-1990, not the mid-1990s like I thought.

The custom 600 is back from the smiths...now wears a Weaver base, Weaver rings and a 2.5-8 Leupold...testing to come...

Bob

...not the bullet. They were loading ammunition in their Custom Line for the .350.

Bob

Finally got to sight in the new custom 600 and the new scope on the 600...just had enough ammo with me to get zeroed so no real accuracy testing was done. The trigger on the custom breaks when you want it to...I have a Rifle Basix trigger to put in the 600 and this needs to get done before it gets shot again...

Now to load some more ammo.

Bob

Pics of the new gun ready to run....



2.5-8 Leupold, Weaver base and Weaver rings...it is so low a piece of paper will just fit between the power ring and the base...






Aluminum guard with enlarger finger area...



Still no clue whose stock it is...




Bob

I'm sure it's gonna shoot like a house a'fire, but I still prefer the cut-down Ruger......

George

Sweet looking rig.

Stock might be a Brown Precision. They make a ultralight version for the 600. Lines look right. Here is my 243



Your trigger guard is custom. The stock would of came with the a remington 700 ADL type trigger guard. I cannot tell if the mag well is open to the trigger guard or not. If the stock does have a open mag well I am thinking the stock may have been cut to accept the trigger guard. Either just for the look or maybe to solve some magazine issue. The weight and dimensions really make me think Brown precision has the stock starting point. You can get the stocks unfinished so they would of been a good choice to customize. Mine was unfinished and I did all the bodywork and paint myself.

Us .358 guys wouldn't be thrilled either.

Very nice rifle..and yes, this does look like it could be a Brown... I think the weight of this stock with bedding material, pad and sling swivel studs was 1 pound 12 ounces....

Bob

Just about the same as mine. Brown prescison offers their stocks with kevlar instead of fiberglass. Takes about four or five ounces off the stock. Adds a lot of cash though. You got a heck of deal on your rifle if you add up all the parts. Just the stock if it is a Brown would be around 800 bucks.

..that is what I figured when I first saw the gun.... How much would it take to buy the 600, use only the action, then buy custom stock, finish and bed it, custom chambered barrel and then the rib and break, then hard chrome the whole thing...$2K today easy.

One difference in the stocks may be the forend...I think this one is rounder and thicker than the other one pictured....

Bob

RJM - Good deal / neat rifle. What does it weigh all up ? & let us know how it shoots.

Total weight as seen is 7 pounds 13 ounces. Trigger pull is 2.75#.

So it is 14 ounces heavier than the 7KS and 2 ounces lighter than the 600...

Bob

RJM,

Nice rifle you got there, but what is up with the barrel rib?

Well...all I can guess is that whoever had the gun built liked the original design but just wanted it made out of metal rather than plastic.... It must have cost him several hundred dollars for that custom rib and barrel....

I am going to contact SSK and see if they know anything about the gun...it looks like their break and SSK Chrome finish.

Bob

Thought I would revive this thread instead of making a new one as there is already so much good information here....

Bought a new custom .350 RM last week and took delivery yesterday. Guy in a Alaska had Montana Rifle Company put a stainless barreled action together for him and then had a local smith pillar bed it into a B&C stock....

The gun is a little heavier than expected but considering it has a full 22" #3 contour barrel it is just going to be heavy. With Tally rings, Leupold 2.5-8 scope and GrovTec Mountain Sling the weight is exactly 9#....one once heavier than the Ruger with 3.75" of barrel missing. Twist is supposed to be 1/12"...

The seller told me the gun has about 300 rounds of ammo through it and has been on several hunting trips. He killed one black bear with it. It is in remarkably great condition for the amount of hunting time it has.

Probably the one reason I bought the gun...delivered it was less than the price of a new stainless Montana 1999 action....

So Friday firearms44 and I will warm up the barrel and see how she shoots....

Bob

On another note...the Ruger... Had not hunted with the rifle in a long time and the shooting I've done with it has been single loading from the bench. Never had a problem snapping one round down and then feeding into the action. After reading several accounts of these rifle/caliber combinations having feeding problems I finally checked mine...and it doesn't feed if there is more than one round in the magazine!!

So off to my friend the gunsmith it did go and after looking at it all he could say was "...what was Ruger thinking..." as the angles appear to be all wrong....

Bob

I learned the hard way how important the cartridge OAL is with my 660. I thought, man this thing feeds hard. Seated the bullets in to the cannelure and it feeds great.

That is fair price for older Remi BDL. This number is strictly re-loaders proposition and brass will only become more difficult to find. Most out there would be better served with .35 Whelen.

In a pinch 350 mag brass can be formed from 338 WM brass. More work but it can be done.

Called SSK today on the custom Model 600 with the vent rib barrel..... They said if it was one of their custom guns "SSK Ind." would be stamped on the barrel.....so a no go...

Bob

heres what i can tell you about the 350 re mag from my experience with a remmy 673, it kicked me so hard my glasses were crooked after i pulled the trigger. i sold it! lenny

Mine was in the 6's dressed. 225's wearing their hats backwards would knock the @#$^ out of you but it was fun. Far more fun than a 300 winny doing the same.... The best platform for field testing partitions doing the job and DRT for kicks....

W

There was a ruger in the classifieds for just under 500, I don't remember if it was sold yet or not

If one wants these guns to be "fun" to shoot one just has to reload handgun bullets at lower velocities.... Rifles don't get unpleasant for me till they hit they .375 H&H with 300 grain bullets...270s are ok but 300s just go over the top for me.

The .350 was designed to be a short range stopper that could be carried easily...as in the Model 600 and later the Custom Shop KS. There are just better/easier to reload for .35 caliber cartridges once you get into a long action rifle....

Bob

That is a beautiful rifle.













Now go chop the barrel down to 20"

....chopping.... Already have a 18.25", 18.5", 20" and a 21" so this one will "probably" stay at 22"... If it got cut it would probably be to 18.5" as it would balance better....

Bob

Cutting that barrel to shorter length would not be a smart decision.

Bob,

The way you and your compadre are going, I'm getting way behind.... I think I'm playing in this league with short pants on....

GH

stay at 22, the 18.5 is really, really loud! ball of flame is hudge! did i mention it is very loud? just me i guess.

BLEH!

Rather than start a new .350 thread I am just reviving this one...think of it a .350 Zombie.....

On another thread about .358 Winchesters someone mentioned that one of the shops has 200 grain Accubond seconds... I bought a few bag and am sorry to report that like its 225 grain big brother this one will not fit in a 2.800" Remington box magazine either...unless you cut the tip off and file it flat... Then it fits by just a hair to spare.

Did some loading this last two days as I have 5 rifles and no ammo.... After loading up a 100 rounds of my go-to hunting load, 220 Speer/60.0 Winchester 748, I loaded up a few more bullets with the same charge just for funzies....



Left to right:

180 Hornady XTP-HP

170 Speer UniCore FP

160 Speer JSWC-SP

180 Hornady SSP

180 Speer HotCore FP

200 Nosler AccuBond with the nose clipped then filed flat to the jacket











And the go-to Speer load..

[img]http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b77/RJM52/Hunting%20Rifles/DSCF6272.jpg[/img]



So sometime soon I'll take a few of the rifles out and run the loads over a chrono and maybe shoot some water jugs...

Bob

I've found those that have had their nose clipped fly pretty darn well. I've got plenty of room in my SA Vanguard for everything I want to fling out of my 358-WSM, but When I loaded the 225 Swift A-Frame I filed the nose flat... sort of a "Protected Point" concept. I didn't file them because of any length issue, I just did it cause I didn't like seeing them with their noses all smashed in the magazine after enduring a little recoil.
At 2930fps they had no trouble expanding early on upon their entry into the one Moose I tried them on

I bet they didn't!

Hey RJM-- how long is a 200-gn Accubond? Just the bullet?

Jeff, if your refer to him as "RJM" rather than "RJR" he just might answer ya

...and while we is measuring up 35 cal stuff.. anybody got a OAL on the 180 TTSX..?

This is a buddy of mines brain child (to match his 6.5 Rem Mag) that's arrived at the 'smith finally. Forgive me for posting it again.

#3 Krieger 1-14" SS on a Rem 700 SS SAUM action. The barrel will be 22".

Wyatt CFE-6 box and Ti Stock, PTG shroud and pin with Talley lows and VX3 2.5-8 on top.

Anyone used the 200gr TTSX on anything big? Not worried about damage, just really really like penetration.

Hey A,

Brother, you'll get penetration.

That CFE-6 gives you the same internal length as does the factory box 2.865" and perhaps your use of that box is to stay in keeping with that particular rifles' twin, the 6.5 Rem Mag.

You might already know this, but the CFE-5 will give you a 2.995" internal, or .130" more length to work with.

The 200 Grain TTSX is 1.296" long.
When that bullet's base is at the shoulder of the case, up out of the body where the powder capacity is not infringed upon, you end up with a COAL of 2.996"

By running the CFE-6 and that 200 grain TTSX, you'll be forced to seat the base of that particular bullet slightly over 1/8" deep into the body of the case.

This might not matter to you and "M" but I offer this as only a suggestion.

Were it me, and I was going to buy a Wyatt's anyway, I'd run the CFE-5 Magazine box, and then I'd throat to "Kiss" using that 200 TTSX seated to a COAL of 2.990-ish.

The length of the AccuBod 225 is 1.267". The shank is about .5" which is the same as the neck of the .350 Mag.

Loaded up some test ammo today for the Montana 1999. There is an amazing amount of usable space in that Winchester style magazine box. In seating all the 250 grain bullet I have so that the base of the bullet is to the bottom of the neck, none of the rounds are too long for the magazine even though some exceed 3".

Using Winchester 748 powder, a Winchester LR Magnum primer and Hornady 250 Spire point bullets I loaded up test rounds from 60-67 grains. On LoadData there is one page that has .350 Magnum Stretch for those actions/chambers that will take bullets seated out from the nominal 2.800". 67 grains is the max I went because that is all the case body will hold so the powder is even with the bottom of the case neck. Loads with a 20" barrel with bullets seated out to 3.0" topped out at 64 grains/2580-2620 fps...so we shall see.

The same was done with the 225 AccuBond. The LOA for that round is just under 3". Depending on how 748 works I'll try Reloader 15 next...supposed to be a great powder for .35s.

Bob

I am going to try the new 200 gr NAB at 2.800" over 60 gr of TAC. Dunno yet if that is going to work or not, but I think it will.

I have the 200 gr NAB's at home, and have not measured them, but the Nosler Web page says they are 1.213"

anyone here tried running AA2520 in the .350mag?

At 1.213" I'm wondering why RJR found the 200 NAB to be too long? The 225 NPT is about 1.175" and it works in at a 2.8" COAL.