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I have a stuck round in the chamber of my 257WM Vanguard. The bolt is open and I tried tapping an alluminum cleaning rod on it from the muzzle but just flared the end of the rod. I should have put a tip in it in hind sight. Any suggestions? I am think a piece of 3/16 steel rod and then tap on it from the muzzle.


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I would use a wood dowel ( biggest that will fit) before a steel rod.

Stuck round or stuck brass? How the heck did that happen?


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is it a loaded round ? if its a fired case get a 24" or so piece of drill rod of the appropiate size and just drop it down the barrel a time or two should do it. if its a loaded roumd i'd head for a gunsmith.

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Loaded round, made up some 7mmRM cases into 257WM, never again, allot after resizing dont want to chamber, some were virgin some 1x.


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What is stopping it from being fired? You are looking at pulling the barrel and inerting the case then extracting it...real fun on a vanguard. I would lose the idea of pounding it out before bad things happen. You may have some luck by filling the bore with kroil and letting it sit for a day or so and pushing a jag into the oil.....or freeze spray the case, or both.


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What is stopping it from being fired?


Betting he can't close the bolt.


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Try soaking with Kroil for a day then try punching it out


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The bolt is now open so I doubt if I can close it again over the extractor. I was thinking of a penitrating oil down the barrel and let it sit for a day then try and tap in out from the muzzle.

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Originally Posted by Sakoluvr
I would use a wood dowel ( biggest that will fit) before a steel rod.

Stuck round or stuck brass? How the heck did that happen?


I would do the wooden dowel. Put the dowel down the barrel, then bump the whole gun lightly on the bench or floor. Tapping with a light hammer isn't the right stroke. A heavy, slow velocity thud is what you want, not high velocity tapping.

I assume the extractor pulled thru the case rim?

Safariman (Mark) told me he had problems with .257 Wby brass formed from 7mm Rem Mag brass. He said the neck was too thick and to use .264 Win Mag brass, instead.

Give us more details concerning what you have.

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Originally Posted by bea175
Try soaking with Kroil for a day then try punching it out


+1 for the Kroil.


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As stated 7mmRM brass resized to 257WM OS diam at the neck was okay, but the bullets may have expanded it out of specks. When I tried to chamber 3 2 were okay, the third stuck.
Dirtfarmer, I know what you mean about a slow push but confused on how to do it by your explenation. Sierra 90gr HPBT is what is loaded in it.


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Try throwing it in the freezer over night and then try tapping it out with the wooden dowl. No luck ? I would think all of this tapping on the bullet should have pushed the bullet back into the case far enuf to spray spray som e lube into the barrel and killing the powder and primer and you should be able to get a little more serious about the tapping thing. +1 on the croil !!

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I've seen a couple fired into the barrel when no powder was loaded in the brass. (don't ask- not me)They tap out easily with a bronze rod that I keep for this purpose. I wouldn't use a steel rod.


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DO NOT USE A WOODEN DOWL. It will split on the bullet and most likley expand and any oil will cause it to swell tighter a snug fitting steel rod is the only way to go . I worked in a gun shop for a couple years and several guns came in with broken wooden dowls in them from people trying just that. take it to a gunsmith before you jam the hell out of it.


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More than one has been killed pounding a loaded round out.
If you insist use a clean drill rod that fits and push
don't pound. best of all have a gunsmith do it.

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Originally Posted by BobnRoy257_b4_Bob257AI
I have a stuck round in the chamber of my 257WM Vanguard. The bolt is open and I tried tapping an alluminum cleaning rod on it from the muzzle but just flared the end of the rod. I should have put a tip in it in hind sight. Any suggestions? I am think a piece of 3/16 steel rod and then tap on it from the muzzle.


Loaded round? I wouldn't do that.. All that'll happen is you'll push the bullet deeper into the case and compress the powder.. You have a very dangerous situation there....

BEST thing to do is take it to a smith who can remove the barrel and lever the case out.. Failing that, there are other things the smith can do but at least they'll be safer than what you're contemplating..


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Provided you haven't already pushed the bullet way back into the case, AND if it contains a mild charge (thinking of the tight neck scenario here), why not remove the extractor from the bolt, replace the bolt in the gun and fire it? Then tap the empty case out with any old rod, replace extractor, and tear down the remaining cartridges.

Failing that, seek professional help.

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55,000 pounds/square inch is more pressure than I would mess with in any of the tapping or firing solutions. There is nothing that will save you if during those operations, the case discharged. There isn't a gun in the world worth chancing that on, take it to a professional and let him do it...


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gnoahhh has made a great suggestion !

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Good advise guys, off the a smith it goes. I dont want to be posting here later, if I can, about the disaster and "what not to do".


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