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Originally Posted by SAcharlie
I have yet to distinguish any shield when skinning one. But the legend continues.


If you want to take the trouble to skin a big old boar hog around 4 or 5 years old you will find it. laugh
A shield doesn't start to develop until a boar is @ 3 and the older and heavier he gets the thicker and tougher it will be. It ain't armor though except against another hog.


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That's been my experience, too. Young boars = no shield, older boars = you're darned right there's a shield.

The one exception was a bruiser that was well over 300# (the farm owner guessed > 400 lbs.) that had no nuts. (Some locals had castrated 20 piglets about 6 year prior, & turned them loose in the swamp.) That critter was dripping with fat, but had zero shield. Apparently, when their veins aren't coursing with testosterone, they're not building up shields through fighting with other boars. All they do is eat.

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I've killed a couple of big, old boars that had VERY hard 1.5-2" thick shields. They were really scared up from years of fighting (long tusks). Both were easily penetrated with 55 grain .223 bullets. Another thick one was easily penetrated with a 180 grain XPT bullet from a .357 at 75 yards (thickest and hardest shield I have ever seen).

Two others were easily penetrated with 110 grain TSX from a .270 (in and out holes). The biggest one I killed was over 500 lbs. and the shield was easily penetrated with a 120 grain 6.5mm ballistic tip. The shield definitely exists and is very hard, but doesn't seem to slow many bullets down. laugh Flinch


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Originally Posted by Folically_Challenged
That's been my experience, too. Young boars = no shield, older boars = you're darned right there's a shield.

The one exception was a bruiser that was well over 300# (the farm owner guessed > 400 lbs.) that had no nuts. (Some locals had castrated 20 piglets about 6 year prior, & turned them loose in the swamp.) That critter was dripping with fat, but had zero shield. Apparently, when their veins aren't coursing with testosterone, they're not building up shields through fighting with other boars. All they do is eat.

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That's right but oddly enough it can have the opposite effect on the growth of tusks. Cutting their nuts out seems to encourage the growth of big teeth. It also seems to effect the angle of them so they don't grind as much which can make them grow to a full curl.

I've seen two pig jaws with the bottom tusks curled right back to the bone in a full circle.


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I've seen two pig jaws with the bottom tusks curled right back to the bone in a full circle.


The Porcine sisters. Met them at a bar some years ago. Down near Naples, Fl, is that where you ran into 'em?


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Thanks for all the responses. I hunted whitetail back in high school and haven't been out since (it's been a long busy time getting through school, working too much and raising a family) and a group of my friends are in the early planning stages for a hog hunt.

I'd like to go with them and want to make sure the deer rifle I have will get the job done and given the responses I think it should be - but better safe than sorry....

Based upon the responses to the thread, I'm expecting my Marlin 30-30 with 150-170 gr bullets to do just fine -- but in the pages of responses, this caliber was not mentioned. Is there something that I'm missing that makes the 30-30 insufficient for hogs or is it a function that newer calibers are just being used more than this old standby? The box of 150 gr Winchester I took to the range leave the muzzle at 2390 fps with a muzzle energy of 1900. Lots of ME drop at 100 yards as it is down to 1357 - but still seems like enough for a good sized hog.

As mentioned, it's been a long time since I hunted with this rifle and have no doubt the 150 gr Winchesters I picked up to verify scope zero may not be the best for a hog hunt - If you had a 30-30, what ammo would you take on a hunt for hogs?

Happy to be sent back to the drawing board (or better yet to my local Gun Store to pick up a better suited rifle) -

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Originally Posted by Shamr0ck
Thanks for all the responses. I hunted whitetail back in high school and haven't been out since (it's been a long busy time getting through school, working too much and raising a family) and a group of my friends are in the early planning stages for a hog hunt.

I'd like to go with them and want to make sure the deer rifle I have will get the job done and given the responses I think it should be - but better safe than sorry....

Based upon the responses to the thread, I'm expecting my Marlin 30-30 with 150-170 gr bullets to do just fine -- but in the pages of responses, this caliber was not mentioned. Is there something that I'm missing that makes the 30-30 insufficient for hogs or is it a function that newer calibers are just being used more than this old standby? The box of 150 gr Winchester I took to the range leave the muzzle at 2390 fps with a muzzle energy of 1900. Lots of ME drop at 100 yards as it is down to 1357 - but still seems like enough for a good sized hog.

As mentioned, it's been a long time since I hunted with this rifle and have no doubt the 150 gr Winchesters I picked up to verify scope zero may not be the best for a hog hunt - If you had a 30-30, what ammo would you take on a hunt for hogs?

Happy to be sent back to the drawing board (or better yet to my local Gun Store to pick up a better suited rifle) -

thanks -



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I'd take whatever ammo shot the best in your rifle, & prepare to have a great time!

Also, if your layoff from shooting has been as long as that from hunting, buy several boxes of ammo, and spend some time getting reacquainted with shooting your rifle from field positions. Especially offhand.

And send us pics of dead hogs!

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Your 30-30 will be fine no matter what bullet you use. As has been said it ain't so much the arrow as it is the Indian.
Not knowing just how you are going to hunt hogs may make a difference.
Using dogs you are going to be in pistol shot. Standing way off somewhere and snipeing them if they come out at 2-300 yards you may want a flater shooting rifle. Just depends. smile


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6.5x55. Incredible penetration. I cannot believe the stories I read about how tough hogs are and how bullets bounce off their shield.


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Originally Posted by Shamr0ck
Thanks for all the responses. I hunted whitetail back in high school and haven't been out since (it's been a long busy time getting through school, working too much and raising a family) and a group of my friends are in the early planning stages for a hog hunt.

I'd like to go with them and want to make sure the deer rifle I have will get the job done and given the responses I think it should be - but better safe than sorry....

Based upon the responses to the thread, I'm expecting my Marlin 30-30 with 150-170 gr bullets to do just fine -- but in the pages of responses, this caliber was not mentioned. Is there something that I'm missing that makes the 30-30 insufficient for hogs or is it a function that newer calibers are just being used more than this old standby? The box of 150 gr Winchester I took to the range leave the muzzle at 2390 fps with a muzzle energy of 1900. Lots of ME drop at 100 yards as it is down to 1357 - but still seems like enough for a good sized hog.

As mentioned, it's been a long time since I hunted with this rifle and have no doubt the 150 gr Winchesters I picked up to verify scope zero may not be the best for a hog hunt - If you had a 30-30, what ammo would you take on a hunt for hogs?

Happy to be sent back to the drawing board (or better yet to my local Gun Store to pick up a better suited rifle) -

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Can't wait until the hunting trip. They said, the hogs are around 150 - 200 lbs, and some are upward close to 400 lbs.

I believe your 30-30 would work perfectly.

I'm bringing my .308win.

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I have had good luck with 165 NBT's and Partitions, I am guessing 50+ hogs.


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