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Interesting mayber but not really that hard to understand.
Tent, sleeping bag, sleeping pad, multi day's food, extra clothes, water filters etc etc etc, gear needed for multiple days out, eat up a lot of space.
Could maybe lash a number of these items to the outside, but no, the X-1 isn't large enough to backpack in a multi day camp. At least it wouldn't be my first choice. I'm sure it could maybe be done, but I'm not a minimalist. Heck, you can pack in "camp" in a stuff sack. Just depends on one's definition of "camp". One man's necessities are another man's luxury.
Yes, it is (just)large enough to handle a butchered whitetail, to that I can attest.
I'm not one of the "experts" on here, just here trying to learn. Huh, must be some small whitetails, I guess. Anyway ..... Nah, I'm probably just not "expert" enough to shootbig ones.  If you say so ......
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So long as my main hunting pack compresses down fine when empty I use that to hunt out of once I am hunting out of my spike camp I packed in. Really don't have a use for a pack that can't haul my day hunt gear and meat. Agreed!
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The eberlestock blue widow compresses down really nicely. It has a fanny pack that is attached to the top of the pack when in transport mode, and you can take it off and wear the fanny only, for hunting out of a spike. I don't really like the way a fanny pack is worn so in the future I'll just compress my pack and take it with me with the fanny inside of the pack with essentials for the day. That way if we kill something I've already got the pack and can pack the first load back to camp if need be. My only complaint with that pack is that it's a little on the heavy side IMO, but it's super comfy as far as back supports and straps and what not.
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I was hoping to hear from more users of the Eberlestock Just One packs on how that concept is working for them. Seems like they have put a lot of thought into building packs that get big enough to carry camp in, get small enough to be out of the way during the hunt and get big enough to carry meat and the head on the way out with camp too if a guy can move the weight?
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I've done a fair bit of backpacking and a fair bit of hunting, but I haven't combined the two a lot.
When I'm hunting "normally" I cover a lot of ground in a day. For instance, I got my deer last year toward the end of a day where I'd hiked 16 miles, mixed abandoned roads, old trails, and cross country. For that a Badlands 2200 or similar works good, a little big for a day pack, but you' don't have to go back.
When I backpack in and camp to hunt, I usually set up camp within a mile or so of where I plan to hunt. Under those conditions I usually don't carry a pack, instead, something more along the lines of a "possibles bag" with just bare essentials.
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I pack with a Kifaru UL5200 with a few outside pockets. I drop the outside pockets and most gear at camp and cinch the pack up tight. Carries great (2-3/4#) and allows you to carry meat back. Packed my archery black bear a couple of miles to camp past fall, stashed him on the glacier over night, boned him in the morning, then out three miles to the truck. I shot the bear with the pack on.
Same pack performed great for a 14 day backpack stone sheep hunt that started out "heavy" with food. Why carry the weight of a second pack too? I use the gunbearer to carry my bow as well.
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.......packs that get big enough to carry camp in, get small enough to be out of the way during the hunt and get big enough to carry meat and the head on the way out with camp too if a guy can move the weight? Sounds like a good old Kifaru Longhunter to me......
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.......packs that get big enough to carry camp in, get small enough to be out of the way during the hunt and get big enough to carry meat and the head on the way out with camp too if a guy can move the weight? Sounds like a good old Kifaru Longhunter to me...... The Kifaru Ultra Light does the same things as my Longhunter, although it may not have the longevity. Time will tell in that regard.
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.......packs that get big enough to carry camp in, get small enough to be out of the way during the hunt and get big enough to carry meat and the head on the way out with camp too if a guy can move the weight? Sounds like a good old Kifaru Longhunter to me...... The Kifaru Ultra Light does the same things as my Longhunter, although it may not have the longevity. Time will tell in that regard. That is true to a point. 100+ pounds in a Kifaru Longhunter with your gear and meat is much more comfy than 100+ in a Kifaru UL. However, for day hunting the Kifaru UL is dang hard to beat!! I'd never haul a separate pack into the backcountry though if spiking out just to day hunt out of. Doesn't make any sense to me. Both the Kifaru UL and Longhunters are great packs, can't go wrong with either one.
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I am working on a pack system off of an airborn molle frame. I have to find a good set of shoulder straps. I may just have to have a set made. I tried the molle set but they are very thick and heavy. https://www.entrygear.com/product.asp?id=1606MM
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I just finished my 50th hunting season. I am currently using a small Badlands for a day pack but it doesn't have the size to use as a effecient meat pack. Over the years I have tried about every combination, large internal frame packs, and external frame packs. Both styles are bulky and get in the way especially when timber hunting. We are spiking in about 5 miles this next fall in Idaho for elk. I will strip the Badlands down and lash it on the out side of the bag on my external frame pack. When I get camp up, I will reload it. Only way I have found to do it.
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Elkmen, that is what I am planning to do I agree I like a small daypack for Idaho timber, I have the older Hydropack, and the Ultraday, I havent decided which one to use yet.
Which one are you using as a daypack?
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I have the 2200, its a great size for a day pack, and has the bladder. Its narrow, doesn't hang outside my body. Has a chest strap and the waist belt will hold it tight against your body. The only downside for me is I wish it had a few more outside pockets. I have to get into the main compartment a little to often for my liking,.
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I use what I packed in with, just synched down as much as possible to use as a day pack when I'm spiked out. More often than not thought I hunt with my camp on my back and stay mobile usually not spending more than a night or two in the same place, until I find the elk (or deer, sheep, etc.) I find I am more mobile and can cover more ground this way. IT just means carrying more weight with every step you take. I'm a gram counter so packing in a day pack is not an option I'm willing to excercise.
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Would like more ideas, looking for the Silver Bullet here:)
This is a big decision for me also......my fanny pack of the BL4500 just doesn't cut it. I Can't imagine using my Badlands 4500 as a daypack though, but I'm having a hard time talking myself into carrying an empty daypack just for day hunting once i make a camp.
9-10 Days worth of everything adds up in a hurry, don't think I can afford the extra dead weight of a daypack when going up up up the Mountain.
I'm a flat lander:)
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For Maverick ![[Linked Image]](http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a20/Tuffcity/Elk%20Hunt%202007/CanalFlats2007024.jpg) Here's a diamond on a pack frame. Not the best shot but it might give the idea. RC
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I'd say get a lighter main hauling pack than the Badlands 4500 that cinches down smaller.
Look into the Kifaru Timberline series for example. 5.5 pounds for 7000 cu in that cinches down small and can easily carry triple digit loads better than the Badlands 4500.
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My set up is a Kelty Load hauler frame with two MR load cells on the shelf and a 40 liter day pack on top of that, with any large or bulky stuff lashed on, (sleeping pad, tent, etc.). Its a set up I've been looking for for years. Just drop the frame and grab the day pack and go. No digging through gear looking for the stuff I want in my day pack and no forgeting stuff. Might not be the lightest or best setup but it works for me.
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Depending on the length of the hunt, couldn't the MR Crewcab work as both? I've been tossing the idea of purchasing the Crewcab for just this reason.
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