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Very interesting video. Seems that the simple solution is going to be fought tooth and nail by a team consisting of government bureaucrats (on the take) and large corporations.

And public perception.

I remember a few years ago being appalled when a regular here stated that he'd never believe there was a problem with salmon stocks, when he could buy it in the grocery store. IE, farmed = wild; salmon on the shelves = healthy species.

I have a confession to make. After years of buying and eating grocery store salmon, a guy I know on Vancouver Island Fed Exed us a huge box of fresh, wild salmon, and we didn't like them as much.

Now, being from New Orleans, I don't like store bought shrimp, oysters, crawfish, etc.

In the big scheme of things though, and to tie it into the title of the thread, Medicare won't be fixing my knees, hips, heart, etc., like it did for my parents, so I'll take my chances with farm raised fish.

Salmon doesn't have to be far "off", to be kind of yucky.

I hear you on Medicare. You must be about my age (40's)?

There's a hell of a lot more wild fish that are caught, stripped of eggs and left to rot on the beach by our local indians. Even a wild Chum or pink (saltwater caught) is a hell of a lot better table fare for city folks than the farm raised chit. Not to mention how much of OUR wild caught fish is exported to Asia for high $$$$ restuarants for the fat and rich...

I've never heard a legitimate, scientific argument against GMO's, just scare tactics.

You ought to see one example of how Pacific seafood gets to the SE mainly trucked in. There's a company in Chatt. TN. that runs teams hauling carpet rolls out to Kent, WA. from the carpet mills in GA. just S. of Chatt. This Co. uses reefers to haul the carpet out to WA. state with the reefer off. They back haul fish or fruit with the reefer on to the SE.

Everything you buy is hauled that way. Truckers must have backhaul to survive. I couldn't care less what else is hauled in a truck as long as it's clean. That's for frozen stuff, of course. Fresh is another matter. If it doesn't take wings, it won't be fresh when it gets there. However, if you want it fresh, be prepared to pay for it. Transportation costs more than the product with $4++ fuel.

Rush has explained the marketing of the very best fresh produce to the major population centers. He explains that only the largest cities (ie. NYC, Chicago, LA, etc) get the very freshest and best produce, beef, and fresh fish because of economy of scale. Because there are so many consumers of the very best food that America has to offer in these population centers, it makes economic sense to over-night the food (ie. wild caught salmon from Alaska to NYC) because you can ship such large quantities at once, and be guaranteed to sell it the next day at the highest prices, thus maximizing profit. Not so with smaller population areas were the market share is miniscule in comparison. Here we must settle for frozen fish; lesser quality fruit; USDA select or maybe choice, but rarely prime. According to Rush it is all about economy of scale in the over-night market.

Everything you buy is hauled that way. Truckers must have backhaul to survive. I couldn't care less what else is hauled in a truck as long as it's clean. That's for frozen stuff, of course. Fresh is another matter. If it doesn't take wings, it won't be fresh when it gets there. However, if you want it fresh, be prepared to pay for it. Transportation costs more than the product with $4++ fuel. [/quot

I realize that backhauls are neccessary, it's just a good market on both runs since the majority of carpet mills are in the SE and the SE has a market for PNW seafood & fruit.

Seems to be that's how it works. If you go to a higher end supermarket like Lunds or Byerlys in the TC area the fish is flown in fresh daily. The price reflects that too. Salmon is usually about $15.00 a pound. Halibut is more like $29.00 a pound.

An overweight diabetic is a nutrition expert!

I forgot to add that at these aforementioned grocery stores they specify farm raised or wild caught. The prices I quoted were 'wild caught'. The 'farm raised' fish is usually cheaper by a few dollars per pound. I stay away from the farm raised fish.

If your mom ever said you were nice, she may have been a liar.

Here's a quote from the article posted to start this,

"Later, they are given antibiotics or pesticides to ward off infection".

So which is it? Pesticides or antibiotics? Or is the author a bit confused about which does what.

Maybe we can get Rush to expound on this!

As for me I will no longer eat farm raised fresh tune.
If it don't come out of a can it must be bad for you.
How about them turd wrasslers,you know the young blue catfish.
They are just re-cycling.

Obviously the original reporter is biased and not up to speed on the science... But the facts are there that show a large chunk of danger ahead for wild salmon because of the farms.

The Fraser River sockeye explanation in the video link has been published by Alex Morton in peer-reviewed science journals in very non-Chicken Little fashion and her studies are coming out to be correct...

My dad (85 yrs old) commercial fishes (mostly catfish and buffalo) in north central Louisiana in the Ouachita River.

He sells his fish for more than the pond raised fish and sells out every week. Most weeks he has a hard time filling all the orders. The fish just taste different and the public will pay for the better tasting.

I agree with you, wild fish, especially anadromous fish, are in for hard(er) times.

Depends on the sort of infection. If it's a parasite infection, pesticides would be used. Bacterial infections are treated with antibiotics.