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Does anyone out there have any pet loads for the 9x57mm Mauser cartridge? Data is pretty scarce unless you head deep back into the reloading manuals of yesteryear. I have a reference for 44 grains of IMR3031 with a 250grn bullet but little else. With a Russian boar hunt coming up I would like to dust her off. (but any loadings would be much appreciated) "Factory" Mauser Sporter A Closer Look Thank you
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Steelhead has one. He loves anything metric.
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I'm pretty sure grasshopper has one too.
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I love Mausers. That is very nice.
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Steelhead has one. He loves anything metric.
Travis Negative, mine is a 9.3x57
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Does anyone out there have any pet loads for the 9x57mm Mauser cartridge? Data is pretty scarce unless you head deep back into the reloading manuals of yesteryear. I have a reference for 44 grains of IMR3031 with a 250grn bullet but little else. With a Russian boar hunt coming up I would like to dust her off. (but any loadings would be much appreciated) "Factory" Mauser Sporter A Closer Look Thank you Not a 9x57 Mauser but you should find Ken Waters 9x56 MS Pet Loads in Handloader 170 July Aug 1994 useful.
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Steelhead has one. He loves anything metric.
Travis Negative, mine is a 9.3x57 I honestly thought that's what the OP read LMAO. I think I'm gonna go back to sleep. Travis
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I do indeed own a 9x57 Mauser. And have another in the works. I've never spent much time loading for it, tho'. I have an enviable quantity of original Kynock 245 gr. vactory loads. So many, in fact, that I can hunt for a very long time and never use them up. Thus loading for it is not real high priority.
I did own another a few years ago. I loaded a bit more for that one.
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I have a 9x57; made in 1908, as I recall. It's down at a friend's place in Montana, for sale at some point. (Not to him -- looking for a sale for me.) It's a really nice rifle, though I've never used it all that much.
Bext load I've developed at 50 gr of Re 15 and a 200 gr Hornady RN, at 2228 fps. Also got about the same results with the same bullet and 50 gr of IMR 4320.
Anyone interested in buying it, send me a note to muledeer and we can talk about it.
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UPDATE: My initial work-ups today. Using 250grn Hornady Interlocks & IMR3031 Paced off what turned out to be 68yds, firing four, three shot strings with *iron sights 43.0 grns - 4.285" group - 2174 avg 43.5 grns - 6.516" group - 2186 avg 44.0 grns - 3.573" group - 2202 avg 44.5 grns - 2.931" group - 2229 avg Gotta love a set trigger though. I have to admit a little past halfway through i was feeling more than a little tender and caught myself flinching more than once. *regretfully hairline fracture (i wasn't aware of) a few months back on my rear double claw ring firing some Kynoch factory ammo separated on me almost dumping the old Gerald scope in the dirt...thus the iron sights
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I gotta be the odd man out - I have one of my great uncles 9x57s that he took to Africa in 1931 and hunted with all his life. It is an exquisite little rifle, claws, DST, "spoon" bolt, solid raised rib, made to his specifications in the Krupp works. (My family owned a small iron shop in Munich - we made stoves fancy fences, and just about anything that could be made of cast iron.Therefore it just made sense to run down the street and have his guns made.) He left it to me, with a brand new, never used new stock still wrapped in paper that was needed because the original stock was worn thin from pushing aside the brush, when he went home to be with his brothers and sister.
My favotite load, after working up loads for fifteen years, is a 225 grain Nosler ballistic tip with CCI standard primers and 43 grains of 3031 in "converted" RP 8mm cases. At 100 yards this load shoots into 1.5 inch all day from a bench with an ancient Weaver 1.5 - 5 scope. Velocity is moderate, but deadly so far on everything it has been used to hunt - including lesser kudu - just over 2,200 FPS. My "heavy" load is the same but with a 225 grain Sierra BTS. Penetration with this bullet is, if anything, too much. Shoots right through big cow elk! This load is also not as accutate, shoots more like 3.5 inch from the bench at 100 yards. All in all I can't find any rifle I like more than this one. If I could find one in .375 H&H I would be in hog heaven. The recoil of the .375 H&H in a rifle that weighs 7.3lbs with scope mounted might drop me like a rock, but in 9x57 she is a real joy to shoot.
Hope this helps.
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I've got a JP Sauer sporter in this caliber. It's a short rifle, 19.6 in barrel. It dates back to 1905 from what I've found out and it's been in our family since between the wars. Grandpa killed several moose with it plus a bear and I've used it on whitetails in my youth. His load was 250 Hornadys (.358) over IMR 3031 for 2100 out of this weapon. So far I've resisted changing much but I'd love to shoot another deer with it while I can still see the sights...lol Edit to add: This load shoots to the fixed express sights. I have a box and a half of Western 280 gr factory loods for it and they are downright sporty. I'll have to chrono one some day.
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That is a sharp looking rifle SSB. I sure miss that kind of character in today's modern rifles.
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I believe one of the guys here at the fire has a custom 9X57MM built on a Remington M700 or a Ruger M77.
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Thanks. My photo skills suck but it's pretty unique. One of the lightest 98's I've ever handled.
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