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I've always used the 200gr Hornaday spire point for deer and bear. Years ago, I used IMR 4320, then I couldn't get it so I switched to IMR 4064. That works well but I'm tired of the 'big stick' powder, so I got a pound of TAC to try. If that doesn't work, I'll go back to IMR 4320.
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I'm using TAC with 200 Gr. Hornady's, but I load to 2.825". Gives good velocity.
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Thanks Jeff O; it's a straight stock BLR btw.
Since I need TAC for my 350 Rem Mag, it will plan out perfectly for the 358 too.
I've never crimped any reloads yet, but I'm sure it's easy.
I figured I would have compressed loads considering such a big bullet in a 308 case.
Thanks again... With RL7 and 200's, I can easily get over 2600 fps from my 20" M7 with very minimal compression. That's a load I've run a lot of. Easy on brass, etc. My load is well over anything I've seen in a book. TAC gets 225's to a solid 2500 fps from that same 20" Pac-Nor barrel. Again with minimal compression. I wouldn't assume crimping will be easy. It can be tricky to get it right, especially with heavy compression, and the cannelure (if there is one) might be in the wrong place. Plus your brass needs to be all trimmed to exactly the same size which means trimming every time or you'll get uneven crimps. Finally, it's very easy to crush the shoulder a bit on a .358 case. For that reason, powders that will give me good speed without the compression are my choice, hence RL7 for 200's and TAC for 225's. From JB's data I'd expect TAC to work great on 200's too. Nosler has a 200-gn Accubond coming out in .35. Gotta admit I like the sounds of that bad boy at 2600+ fps on deer! I've killed a half-dozen deer with the 225 NP. Great bullet but nor quite as dramatic as the 200 Horn... keeps meat damage LOW though. I'll post a couple gory pics.
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Ok, here's the heart and lungs of the buck I killed this last season. As you can see, it didn't exactly soup the lungs. 225 NP at a MV of 2500 fps, 35 yards or so. Exit wound on the same buck: This is a small buck I shot a few years ago, exit on the shoulder. The meat damage is minimal:
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Ahh, I like big holes in furry animals. I think the big bore bug has bitten me.
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Here's another small buck with a big hole from the 200 Horn:
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well yeh.. I've been noticing that bullets entering through a big hole tend to want to exit through one of similar design. Go figure
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Beauty of .358 is a big hole but minimal meat damage. While still having decent trajectory. Anyone want to see a .358 head shot? It's pretty gruesome.
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There is an accuracy node right around 49 grains of Varget under a 200 Hornady spire or RN. Speed is about 2400 and makes a nice clean nickel size hole in white tails. You can see daylight clear through the deer on the shot. But the hole quickly washes over with blood......
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