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I would appreciate those of you with experience suggesting a third rifle to help me cover the entire range of African hunting, regardless of location. I don't want anything bigger than my 404J and no shotguns or rimfires. Those are taken care of. I know I could probably do it all with my 375H&H, but then I wouldn't need another gun! Your reccomendation on something else for the plains would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.

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I took two extra guns with me. A Ruger No.1 customized in 7mm STW and then I took the .270 bolt gun. Since you have "gun bearers", I really enjoyed having my .270 around for the springboks, cervals, steinboks and the duikers. It was a good choice.


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404 Jeff and a 7 by 57 would be a nice battery. If you want three throw in a 375 H&H.

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Originally Posted by Mike70560
404 Jeff and a 7 by 57 would be a nice battery. If you want three throw in a 375 H&H.

With a 404 and a 7x57 there is no need for a 375. The 404 will be within 2 inches of the 375 trajectory at 250 yds (and this is with a 100 yd zero) for the largest plains game although the 7x57 with a 160 - 175 gn bullet would do as well. Check out this on the trajectory for the 375 and the 404.
http://404jeffery.blogspot.co.nz/

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Originally Posted by VonGruff
With a 404 and a 7x57 there is no need for a 375. Von Gruff.


Well that blows my theory to bits! grin Would have said the 375 mainly because I'm partial to it, but my list would be:
404, 375 and 30-06. That will cover everything you shoot at.

The 404 ammo is not readily available in South Africa and if you do find it it is very expensive. North of the Limpopo it will be outrageously expensive if you can find it so I would want to save 404 ammo.

With the 375 you can still do DG if something goes wrong with the 404.

If I really had to leave the 375 behind I would be tempted to use a 17 cal just for fun! Jackal, vervet monkeys, guineas, francolin - the list is endless...


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I would also select the the 30-06, with the 404J and the 375 H&H you would have the classic safari trio and ammo readily available for two of the three.


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Forget three rifles. Take the 404 and a 300 Win. Mag. with 180gr.-200gr. Partitions or TSXs. You are set.

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375 H&H
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If you can't have fun with that, you are not capable ofr having fun.

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Originally Posted by RipSnort
Forget three rifles. Take the 404 and a 300 Win. Mag. with 180gr.-200gr. Partitions or TSXs. You are set.

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Yep, that covers it. I have taken three and even four rifles to Zim a few times and it was only because I wanted a loaner for clients and because I wanted to test some rifles and ammo on Leopard Bait animals (GREAT testing grounds, BTW) but one or two rifles is immeasurably easier to travle with and get through the airports. 3 or 4 are just not needed, IMO.


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You never "really have to" leave the 375 behind.
In fact if it is found out you left a 375 in the safe customs will confiscate whatever rifle you have with you as you are not to be trusted with a firearm

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Well, you have the 404. I'm kinda like Jack O'Connor, all you really need is a 375 H&H mag, and a 30-06. Borrow a 12 ga., when ya get there, if ya wanta hunt birds. JMHO.


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can you take combo guns? If so I'd probably take my 375, 30-06, and may savage 22mag / 20 gauge

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.30-06 is perfect...


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I would get a 30-06. A 7x57 or 300 H&H would also be acceptable.

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Originally Posted by blaser_guy
You never "really have to" leave the 375 behind.
In fact if it is found out you left a 375 in the safe customs will confiscate whatever rifle you have with you as you are not to be trusted with a firearm


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I don't understand taking 3 rifles or even 2.

If you take a .375, there is no point in taking a 30-06 or something similar.

For plains game only, take a 30-06 or .300 something. Nothing else is needed.

Worried about a rifle malfunction? I've never had one. If it makes you feel better, take a spare scope in QD rings.

I took only a .375 with no spare scope on my last safari. A spare? I verified in advance that my PH had a very nice scoped .416 in camp.



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