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#6243420 - 03/02/12 Re: how many guys actually use topo maps to locate.. [Re: smokepole]  
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Not to much with Topo maps. I use Google Earth and a lot of scouting throughout the year.


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#6243436 - 03/02/12 Re: how many guys actually use topo maps to locate.. [Re: CP]  
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I have only been elk hunting once, in 1990, but I used a map a lot. There were not a lot of videos or the internet back then (at least in rural Iowa) but I read every book and magazine article I could get ahold of. I bought topo maps of the area and marked potential spots on them. The first elk I saw was on one of my "x's", which made the whole trip for me, however, the elk I shot was at an unmarked wallow that is now marked on my map. I just thought it was cool that my kitchen table scouting in Iowa really helped with a hunt in Wyoming. Since I hope to elk hunt again in a year or two I am trying to learn my mapping gps better, but I will still have maps and a compass with me.

#6243445 - 03/02/12 Re: how many guys actually use topo maps to locate.. [Re: duckcall]  
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I like studying maps. But I don't know how much it's helped me really. Just have to find them and know where the private property is.


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#6243453 - 03/02/12 Re: how many guys actually use topo maps to locate.. [Re: Mauser_Hunter]  
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I usually buy the ones for a certain area if I have not been to it previously.Once I know the area, I seldom use them again.

I don't rely on Googel Earth etc to much, as things change. If I am interested in an area, I go there to check it out prior to hunting it.

Back when you could order from USGS for 50 cents a map I had large collection of New Mexico. I gave them away when I left there.Now a t$10 apop,I am a little more selective.


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#6243662 - 03/02/12 Re: how many guys actually use topo maps to locate.. [Re: saddlesore]  
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I've never found that Google Earth changes in my hunting areas. Which would be high altitude remote areas.

My main concerns are where are creeks, open areas, timber areas, old logging rods that aren't used anymore, and especially altitude changes. Just running the mouse over an area you can instantly see the altitude changes. The faster it changes, the steeper it is. This is most important to an old man like me. smile


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#6243702 - 03/02/12 Re: how many guys actually use topo maps to locate.. [Re: Mauser_Hunter]  
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Originally Posted by Mauser_Hunter
I've never found that Google Earth changes in my hunting areas. Which would be high altitude remote areas.


One of the areas would be NW Colo where all then wells are being put in. What once was good deer country is now filled with well heads and roads.


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#6243721 - 03/02/12 Re: how many guys actually use topo maps to locate.. [Re: saddlesore]  
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Yeah, I wouldn't trust GE where man is involved. I avoid those areas. Last year I only saw one other hunter, and he looked lost. smile


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#6243804 - 03/02/12 Re: how many guys actually use topo maps to locate.. [Re: CP]  
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Originally Posted by CP
Railroad right-of –ways are private property, and since 9/11, just walking along the tracks can lead to some difficult conversations with the authorities. CP.


In most states they are not posted properly.

I use topos, but more and more I use the satellite photos here on the internet. when we were invited to Washington I did some looking, and showed up in camp with pictures of the two areas our experienced hosts pointed us to.

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#6244033 - 03/02/12 Re: how many guys actually use topo maps to locate.. [Re: Siskiyous6]  
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I use all sorts of maps but mostly topo. For those wanting a cool software program to help get the lay of the land and has the ability to view topo and color and B/W aerial photos, check out TopoFusion. It has the capability to do 3-d modeling, downloading GPS points/tracks, and toher cool things. The free version is very usable.

This time of year is the time I spend crafting new entrance/exit and doing pre-scouting of new areas. I spend alot of time looking over maps and then follow up with on the ground confirmation.


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#6244126 - 03/02/12 Re: how many guys actually use topo maps to locate.. [Re: bwinters]  
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Last year and the year before I drew a bull tag and cow tag in Wyoming, both ares I had never hunted before. I bought forest maps primarily for land status, talked to the Fish and Game guys and spent hours on Google Earth. I killed a bull in one one of the areas I had written down the GPS coordinates for. Last year our three cows were killed in a little basin a couple of miles in. Nothing beats first hand knowledge but maps and GE can save a lot of miles, and days.

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#6246961 - 03/03/12 Re: how many guys actually use topo maps to locate.. [Re: smokepole]  
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Originally Posted by smokepole
Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
It's not waterproof and needs to be kept in a ziplock bag, but it's quick and easy.


I do the same, but I print on waterproof stock that you can buy at REI or I'm sure other places. It's made by National Geographic and called something catchy like "adventure paper." LOL, they'd probably sell more if they called it "extreme adventure papaer." If you print on both sides, you can cover a pretty large area.


Originally Posted by BrentD
They do help with finding access points and, more importantly, areas with very few access points. But they don't actually say "Elk here". Only to the extent that they reasonably depict forest and open parks and other habitat are they really all that useful.


I'd agree with that. My two best spots were found after doing some map work to find areas with no roads, but they didn't look all that good on the map. I found them walking in, on my way to other spots that "looked much better on the map" but weren't. Elk are where you find them.
They'd sell by the truckload if they called it TACTICAL paper.


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#6246966 - 03/03/12 Re: how many guys actually use topo maps to locate.. [Re: Rock Chuck]  
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#6246968 - 03/03/12 Re: how many guys actually use topo maps to locate.. [Re: Rock Chuck]  
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In the last year, Google Earth and Google Maps have reshot much of Idaho and the resolution is infinitely better. Until then, both were fairly useless except for getting a general idea of what the land looks like. Now you can see individual animals in the fields, etc. By using GE together with topo maps, you can really see what's there.


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#6246985 - 03/03/12 Re: how many guys actually use topo maps to locate.. [Re: Elkmen]  
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Originally Posted by Elkmen
Last year and the year before I drew a bull tag and cow tag in Wyoming, both ares I had never hunted before. I bought forest maps primarily for land status, talked to the Fish and Game guys and spent hours on Google Earth. I killed a bull in one one of the areas I had written down the GPS coordinates for. Last year our three cows were killed in a little basin a couple of miles in. Nothing beats first hand knowledge but maps and GE can save a lot of miles, and days.


I completely agree with that. Pre-season and/or pre-trip topographical map study and land ownership map study has saved me a lot of time and put me on some great hunting across North America. Can't stress enough the importance of good map interpretation skills.

#6247148 - 03/03/12 Re: how many guys actually use topo maps to locate.. [Re: Maverick940]  
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A man once told me; It's not an adventure if you have a map.
I haven't seen him in a while.


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#6247177 - 03/03/12 Re: how many guys actually use topo maps to locate.. [Re: nclonghunter]  
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A map is like a 4x4 truck. It enables you to get into a lot more places where you have no business going. A 4x4 will get you stuck beyond belief and a map will give you false confidence in your ability to find your way home.


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#6247289 - 03/03/12 Re: how many guys actually use topo maps to locate.. [Re: Rock Chuck]  
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Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
A map is like a 4x4 truck. It enables you to get into a lot more places where you have no business going. A 4x4 will get you stuck beyond belief and a map will give you false confidence in your ability to find your way home.


I always hang my maps up down in the stalls and let the mules study them a bit.Then let the mules find my way back to the camp.Seems to work, but letting them watch training tapes on the VCR/TV does not. grin


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#6247582 - 03/03/12 Re: how many guys actually use topo maps to locate.. [Re: pka45]  
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Originally Posted by pka45
I look at maps like some guys look at dirty magazines!

+1


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#6249270 - 03/03/12 Re: how many guys actually use topo maps to locate.. [Re: Coyote_Hunter]  
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Myself and the guys I hunt with use a combination of topo maps and Google Earth when planning our hunts. Personally, I always take a compass with me while hunting but I usually rely on my GPS with map software that shows public and private land, water sources and a bunch of other helpful features. I especially like the public trails info that my GPS topo maps provides. Sure came in handy on last year CO elk hunt.


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#6249685 - 03/03/12 Re: how many guys actually use topo maps to locate.. [Re: Rock Chuck]  
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Originally Posted by Rock Chuck
They'd sell by the truckload if they called it TACTICAL paper.


Nahhh, everybody knows that "tactical paper" comes in rolls.....



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#6250219 - 03/04/12 Re: how many guys actually use topo maps to locate.. [Re: smokepole]  
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Originally Posted by nclonghunter
A man once told me; It's not an adventure if you have a map.
I haven't seen him in a while.

I love it !

I just started elk hunting two years ago at age 53. And I don't live "in the neighborhood" where I can do preseason scouting. Given that I do not have a great number of years left to learn the business from the ground up, all of my scouting has to be via maps and topo's. I did invest in a custom topo map from MyTopo.Com last year for the area we hunt. Excellent detail. I take a bit of ribbing for being the "map nut". But, before the week is over everyone in camp has looked over the maps at least once. I also like the trail information contained in the maps on my DeLorme PN60 GPS. Have not looked at Google Earth. May check that out in the future.


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