Skill set of a hunter obliviates the need for an AO for big game.
You are trying to defend a "want" rather than a "need".
No necessity to do that. You may want whatever you wish.
Opposition springs from trying to convince others that your "want" for an AO is a need for "deer hunting".
Be my guest - go shooting, practice lots, argue MOA, clicks, dials and dots, windmeters, laser rangefinders and AO.
Tools of the trade for a shooter. Master that trade, perhaps you already have, and that commands respect.
Skill set does not change by supping a paper target for a deer.
Change the thread title to "deer shooting scope" and go forth and fill arcs.
To me - IMHO - to much talk of shooting these days and to little of hunting.
Rant over.
LOL, I don't believe I ever said you "need" an AO to kill deer. In fact, of the 15 or so scopes I own, two have an AO. And they're both on "long range" rigs.
I hunt with AO scopes a bunch. I hunt very open country. I set them to 200yds and forget about it unless I'm going to make a long shot. At that point I have the time to take a good rest, manipulate both the power ring as well as the AO.
That is pretty much what I thought the proper use was.
One way to spot a Yuppie Hunter is he be loaded down with dials, buttons, LED lighted shooting equipment, lots of spare batteries, $3000 worth of optics that weigh a ton........
Casey
Casey
Not being married to any particular political party sure makes it a lot easier to look at the world more objectively... Having said that, MAGA.
I know what a Redneck is cuz I are one, but, what's a Yuppie Hunter?
My sig. line? Depends on your point of view. When I�m hunting in the backcountry, I�m wearing either camo or orange hat/vest and carrying a rifle, depending on the season. And toting my backpacking gear, which has labels from a variety of good equipment purveyors that don�t distribute through Cabela�s. When I come across others back there, what they see depends on their own point of view.
Backpackers see a redneck with a gun, an orange hat and vest, who just happens to be carrying a backpack. A redneck backpacker. They don�t like rednecks and cringe at the sight of a gun. Some hunters (not the smart ones) spot gear with a label other than Cabela�s, maybe even (gasp!!) REI, and see a yuppie who just happens to be toting a gun.
I just like to hunt out of a backpack and use the best gear available, so I don�t really give a sh**.
One way to spot a Yuppie Hunter is he be loaded down with dials, buttons, LED lighted shooting equipment, lots of spare batteries, $3000 worth of optics that weigh a ton........ Casey
I think I saw one of those guys in the field last season.
Lets see:
Dials � check Buttons � check LED lighted shooting equipment � check Lots of spare batteries � check $3000 worth of optics � check +
What a goomer!!
Shot a little video of this idiot. It is a wonder he can even function with all that crap.
Yuppies, who needs em.
John Burns
I have all the sources. They can't stop the signal.
One way to spot a Yuppie Hunter is he be loaded down with dials, buttons, LED lighted shooting equipment, lots of spare batteries, $3000 worth of optics that weigh a ton........
Casey
Where do you draw the line between "Yuppie hunter" and dude who knows how to use what he's carrying?
I carry Geovids and almost always have my 1200LRF and a 2nd set of binocs (Meopta or Zeiss Victory) in the truck as backup. I'm often guilty of carrying 2 spotters in the truck and depending on terrain and expectations, I occasionally carry 1 into the field. Pretty much every rifle I own has an Leupold with an M-1 elevation dial and a table either taped to the stock or just written on with a sharpie. I shoot in a "sort-of" F-Class league (we only have 300 and 600yd birms)
I've loaded my own ammo, mounted my own scopes, bedded the stocks myself, work my own triggers, etc.
Last yr I probably only shot 300ish rifle rounds all year. Some summers I go over 2K. I've never hunted with a guide/outfitter in my life nor killed a single critter over a corn-flinger. Closest was paying for an outfitter in AK to fly me out to a gravel bar on the Canning River and provide the camping gear/provisions for a 7-day Caribou hunt. I'm not JB, so now do I have to be a yuppie?
I can walk on water.......................but I do stagger a bit on alcohol.
Another trick to eliminate parallax with a non AO/SF scope is what we call ghost ringing.
You pull your head slightly back until you see the black ring appear around the perimeter of your lens. Center this ring in your site picture and line up the cross hairs on target.
This will help eliminate most parallax on decent quality scopes. It really takes no longer than using a SF, if you practice...
JM
I was shown that trick years ago, and I did teach myself to do it that way on longish shots.
I find myself automatically doing it at the range too, even at 100 yds.....
Casey
Casey
Not being married to any particular political party sure makes it a lot easier to look at the world more objectively... Having said that, MAGA.
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