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I handled a Remington 1917 7.62x54mm a few years ago, best looking wood I have seen on a MN.
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Yep, the carbines are fun. Much more pleasant to shoot offhand than from a bench. They provide a hellish ball of flame around dusk.
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I have a carbine and I don't consider it unpleasant to shoot. It is after all, a nine pound or so rifle chambered in something right between a .308 and 30-06.
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I have 3 rifles and shoot good. Bought them for 80.00 and they are truly a knock about gun. When some folks talk about their "truck guns", those gunssre much nicer than my good or "non-truck" gun. I do not think about a mosin under the seat. My buddy has a carbine and it is easier to use while in the truck, but here in cali, shooting from a truck is seriously frowned on.
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Some years back during my C&R days I picked up three; two carbines and an M39. The carbines were a bit snappy in recoil and good for perhaps 4" at 100 yds. The M39 was pretty decent, 1.5" at 100. Toyed with the idea of slugging the bore on the 39 and handloading for it, and is showed promise using com bloc ammo I slugged the bore of my Finn M-39 and it is 0.312. BTW, I recommmend the book, The Mosin-Magant Rifle, by Terence Lapin (North Capre Publications), a wealth of information - not as well organized as I'd like, but there.
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Yep, the carbines are fun. Much more pleasant to shoot offhand than from a bench. They provide a hellish ball of flame around dusk. I've got a Remington Model Seven in 308 Winchester that (with scope) weighs 7 pounds and has a 20" bbl. I'm sure it is no harder to handle than a MN Dragoon.
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Mosins are way underrated primarily due to their low price IMHO. They are stout and when you know how to work with them, they can shoot very well indeed. I have a nice M44 carbine and with Wolf 200 grain soft points and the rear sight set to 600 meters, it shoots about an inch high and 3 shots into 2" at 100 yards when I take my time and am careful with the trigger. These are typical Russian arms - accurate enough, reliable as the day is long and durable. No nonsense, good enough battle rifles. I had a nice collection but sold all but two off - the best of the bunch was a Finn 39 with a SAKO barrel - shot like a Swede Mauser
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I believe I have seen that book before, its kind of a small handbook and not very well edited?
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In WW2, Russia used the MN, equiped with a scope, as a sniper rifle against the Germans.
From what I have read, the Russian snipers ran up an impressive number of kills.
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It was also used in the Vietnam War as a sniper rifle. Slightly off topic but a Remington Rolling Block in 7.62x54mm caliber was captured in VN in 1965 and is on display at the Special Forces Museum in Okinawa.
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Mosins work well if you run them like you are mad at them.
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The Russians still use the Mosin Nagant's as Sniper Rifles, They been doing quite a bit of hunting with them in Chechnya.
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Now we should be careful with all the new found love for the Mosin Nagant's Vadimir Putin will find out and jack up the prices the greedy spy that he is.
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When I was all so young, about 1961, my dad got the great Idea that I should learn to shoot, so dad being dad, never owned a gun or did any kind of hunting or shooting for that matter, bought me a Marlin Bolt 22 and a Mosin Nagant that came out of the armory in 1938. I still have both guns. The thing with the Mosins is that all they need is a little TLC. The Finn's rebuilt captured rifles and they are good ones. Mine is a carbine version. I would like to get a full sized one complete with a 3x PU scope and use it for deer hunting old gun style. Remington- Westinghouse made a bunch of them for the Czars Army during World War I and didn't deliver a bunch after the October 1917 Revolution. There were a lot of them around. I think Dad paid all of 8 dollars for mine, I know it was not much. its a fond memory of my youth. I even killed my first deer with that rifle, and it was only a few months after I got it, we didn't have a whole lot of deer around then. Snuck out Saturday while dad was giving my brother some lessons, I didn't expect to see anything and well this deer came by and I just brought the rifle up lined up the sights and well next thing I know I got this deer on the ground, and now what. My father didn't know what to do either, so he called my Uncle Felix , he was one of my mothers brothers and he took care of it and had me drink a shot, and put a tab of blood on my forehead and told me things would be different from now on. My that was 51 years ago. It would be a good 10 years before I would shoot my second deer in VT. One of the reasons I love 24 hr Campfire, I get to think about the days of my youth. In 67 months from that shot, dad would pass on. I was 12 and a 7 months at the time. The rest of the country was in a real crap fest in 1967 pretty much like the current crap fest. I'm just a whole lot older and maybe a little wiser. Be careful with the westinghouse built ones . I had one and it had a 308 bore someone shot a russian shell in it and it ruptured the case and locked up the bolt . I cleaned it out and shot 308 bullets and it was ok.I don't know what the bore in the Remingtons were as I never found one.
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Now we should be careful with all the new found love for the Mosin Nagant's Vadimir Putin will find out and jack up the prices the greedy spy that he is. and, we Americans will probably pony up the money, just like gas.
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Mosins seem to be everywhere in my area, prices pretty darn cheap. I have noticed that Turkish Mausers are starting to dry up though.
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I only seen Turkish Mausers in ones and twos at shows. They've apparently already dried up in the DC metro area.
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I never owned one.Could not even pick one up they are so fugly.Always reminded me of a Coyote ugly woman.
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In 1937 a guy by the name of Olavi Elo set a world record in the International Army Matches. The rifle he used was a Finnish M-N M28/30.
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I just picked up my first one a couple of months ago. so far we have been having quite a bit of fun with it.
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