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Here is another example of why I live with twist envy in my 22-250 The plate on the left was shot by BillyGoatGruff and his 1-8" 22-250 AI launching the 75gr A-Max @ 3,300ish. Note the snow moving to the left... I shot the same distance (455 yards) with some 55gr Nosler's clocking 3,600ish and my POI was 5" off target. Not the first time his fast twist rifle kicked my azz.... Plate on the right was from his 7 RUM. Travis For conversation,my 23" 1-7.7" Krieger 22-250AI makes 3450fps+ with the 75A-Max and that boolit do very nice things,regarding the slipping of atmospheric conditions. The 75'Max leaving at 3450fps drifts 13.1" at 450yds in 10mph full value and retains 2447fps at the scene. 1K is a sub 21 MOA ele correction at sealevel(as a worst case scenario) and 1491 fps at the scene. Literally not a bad way to fly. Hint. tex', No need to wax eloquent upon your not having a [bleep] clue,or having a single rifle so chambered,twisted as per the discussion...though I'm digging your "if" Treatise and copious Jeff-O Dumbphucktitude. Of course they are ignorant [bleep] clueless Bean Counters and Stupidity is the sole reason for the Goat [bleep],but I'm digging your "blow up" Theorum,that schit was(is) GREAT! Feel free to revisit your incredible ineptitude. Just sayin'. The upside in regard to reserve RPM,is there ain't no downside and I dig that the profundity fully escapes your "comprehension","knowledge" and "experience". As an aside,Cooper doesn't make any Hard Use Utility Rifles,though they make Fluff. In fairness,I'm afforded the luxury of not being forced to guess...and I'd not wish to slight your proclivity to guess and badly. Wow. 'we, Has nothing to do with warming up. Has simply to do with shooting and if you never shoot,you'll never get it and tepid temps will be your Swan Song. Noone who's tasted it,rolls slow. Hint. Swifty, I dig how you Do-Nothing/Know-Nothing Dumbphucks flock together. IF only you had the faculties to know how [bleep] funny that truly is. Laffin'!
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Here is another example of why I live with twist envy in my 22-250 The plate on the left was shot by BillyGoatGruff and his 1-8" 22-250 AI launching the 75gr A-Max @ 3,300ish. Note the snow moving to the left... I shot the same distance (455 yards) with some 55gr Nosler's clocking 3,600ish and my POI was 5" off target. Not the first time his fast twist rifle kicked my azz.... Plate on the right was from his 7 RUM. Travis For conversation,my 23" 1-7.7" Krieger 22-250AI makes 3450fps+ with the 75A-Max and that boolit do very nice things,regarding the slipping of atmospheric conditions. The 75'Max leaving at 3450fps drifts 13.1" at 450yds in 10mph full value and retains 2447fps at the scene. 1K is a sub 21 MOA ele correction at sealevel(as a worst case scenario) and 1491 fps at the scene. Literally not a bad way to fly. Hint. tex', No need to wax eloquent upon your not having a [bleep] clue,or having a single rifle so chambered,twisted as per the discussion...though I'm digging your "if" Treatise and copious Jeff-O Dumbphucktitude. Of course they are ignorant [bleep] clueless Bean Counters and Stupidity is the sole reason for the Goat [bleep],but I'm digging your "blow up" Theorum,that schit was(is) GREAT! Feel free to revisit your incredible ineptitude. Just sayin'. The upside in regard to reserve RPM,is there ain't no downside and I dig that the profundity fully escapes your "comprehension","knowledge" and "experience". As an aside,Cooper doesn't make any Hard Use Utility Rifles,though they make Fluff. In fairness,I'm afforded the luxury of not being forced to guess...and I'd not wish to slight your proclivity to guess and badly. Wow. 'we, Has nothing to do with warming up. Has simply to do with shooting and if you never shoot,you'll never get it and tepid temps will be your Swan Song. Noone who's tasted it,rolls slow. Hint. Swifty,
I dig how you Do-Nothing/Know-Nothing Dumbphucks flock together.
IF only you had the faculties to know how [bleep] funny that truly is.
Laffin'! thought someone who thinks so highly of themselves could come up with new material and thoughts. But alas you have proved to be like this guy chained up to his own ignorance, and shallow thinkng. You gots me really rolling and LAFFIN big Time. Swifty
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No need to wax eloquent upon your not having a [bleep] clue,or having a single rifle so chambered,twisted as per the discussion...though I'm digging your "if" Treatise and copious Jeff-O Dumbphucktitude. Of course they are ignorant [bleep] clueless Bean Counters and Stupidity is the sole reason for the Goat [bleep],but I'm digging your "blow up" Theorum,that schit was(is) GREAT!
Feel free to revisit your incredible ineptitude. Just sayin'. The upside in regard to reserve RPM,is there ain't no downside and I dig that the profundity fully escapes your "comprehension","knowledge" and "experience".
So in other words, you haven't asked them. Carry on edit to add - your pics are pretty cool, so feel free to keep posting them.
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Any one tried the twist rate change through quickload? I have in the past and I am pretty sure it predicted negligible if any pressure differences. I am in ND today and do not have Ql on this computer. I have shot hot loaded 55gr loads set up for my 14T 223 through my 7T 223 with out a problem. STOP IT. Real world experience is not welcome here. It ain't near as humorous either....grin
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"twist envy"...dats a new one... and I have GOT to check into these'aviators'..... If you can't find aviators locally, just print off a picture of shrapnel. I find a quick flashing of this photo is akin to FBI Credentials in a Hollywood flick. People just tend to move the [bleep] out of your way. Travis
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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Is a beer-company ball cap and or mustache required? You've got me listening... Negative. No need to accessorize aviators. At all. Travis
Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual. Sorry, trump is a no tax payin pile of shiit. My young wife decided to play the field and had moved several dudes into my house
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They'd already seen like 8 chicken pot pies... It is Montucky after all... Possibly. Hard to say really. BillyGoatGruff dumpster dives for them. He's a bit...umm...thrifty... Travis
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Any one tried the twist rate change through quickload? I have in the past and I am pretty sure it predicted negligible if any pressure differences. I am in ND today and do not have Ql on this computer. I have shot hot loaded 55gr loads set up for my 14T 223 through my 7T 223 with out a problem. Huh. Didn't even know that was an option. I will have to try that.
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Why, when we got jeffy doin' his best guesses?
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Just checking. I do normally go minimal clothing when sporting aviators but was unsure of how it goes in Montucky.
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Boxer, I was going to push these faster, but the only thing I had on hand when I started working up a load for it was H4350. I got up to 41 grains I think, but accuracy fell off, so 39 gets me 3300 and as much accuracy as I could hope for. I may try a different load with those Amax's eventually, but what's not to love about not stepping on it too hard and still getting good performance? I dunno, but maybe going 3300 instead of 34 or 35 will get me a little more tube life. Re 15 does get me 3500 (I think, working off memory) with the 62 ttsxs, and it's only a click or two adjustment from my zero w/ the amax's. FWIW with a 250y zero with the amax's I'm within an inch or two at 200 yards with 53 tsx's going 3800, 62 ttsx's going 3500, 55 horn sp's (dunno speed, 39 gr of H4350 for a ff load), and another 40 gr vmax load.
What's wrong with being thrifty eh? Some tape over those holes and the plates are good-to-go!
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Any one tried the twist rate change through quickload? I have in the past and I am pretty sure it predicted negligible if any pressure differences. I am in ND today and do not have Ql on this computer. I have shot hot loaded 55gr loads set up for my 14T 223 through my 7T 223 with out a problem. STOP IT. Real world experience is not welcome here. It ain't near as humorous either....grin Was just throwing a bone, to help with the theorizing
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Doesn't seem that 7.7 twist 22-250AI is being slowed down by twist rate.....
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Any one tried the twist rate change through quickload? I have in the past and I am pretty sure it predicted negligible if any pressure differences. I am in ND today and do not have Ql on this computer. I have shot hot loaded 55gr loads set up for my 14T 223 through my 7T 223 with out a problem. Huh. Didn't even know that was an option. I will have to try that. look under the "data, add load change tab", I think it is gun data, should be an option there somewhere.
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Speaking of Goat [bleep] I can't believe this thread has gone on for 30 pages.
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I learned a few things, some of it good some of it not so much. Anyway, enough to get my curiosity up enough to buy a box of the current hot topic bullet of the week, and even a couple more boxes of Bob's all time favorite.
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What are you gonna run those Amax's in, battue?
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I learned a few things, some of it good some of it not so much. Anyway, enough to get my curiosity up enough to buy a box of the current hot topic bullet of the week, and even a couple more boxes of Bob's all time favorite. Mmmm.... A-Max.... Travis
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.223AI that is currently being put together. Would like to give them a go in my .22-250, but it's 1:10 may not get it done. Now where did I come up with that? Mmmmm....
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Off the Amax box maybe?
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