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Huntr

Tom,
True, but it is rumored that it will be changing. Shoot, as long as I can use it in Az, Tx and Col. I will be happy.
Red

Why? I have never understood why someone would want to get out of their car, go inside the station and pay, come outside and pump your own gas and risk the Haz Mat, then go back inside the station to get your change, in the rain and snow for some parts of the year. Do you like putting people out of work? Or, do you like to do your own work and still pay the same amount? Here in Central OR I get my gas pumped and often get my windshield washed too.

Maybe we can outlaw professional meet cutting too. You go into the grocery store, walk into the cooler in your office clothing and stand in line waiting to cut dinner off a hanging cow, or maybe kill and pluck your own chicken. Then we will go to do it yourself gall bladder surgery but you still get to pay the hospital the same as if a real surgeon did the work. Then we could ...

Yes I am taking this to an extreme but I have seen people in a true rage when they were told they could not pump their own. I just don�t get it.

It's all about pay at the pump, and pump it yourself is cheaper. And I would have to pull my keys out of the ignition, give it to the guy to unlock my gas cap, seems like it is just easier to do it yourself.

1ak-

What did he say???!!

"It'd have to be no taxes and free head ..."

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Studies have shown that states that go to self serve do NOT lower their prices. I managed a high volume station in Florida when they went self serve and I know there was no savings then. We just fired seven people and pocketed the profits. There was no savings when Washington went self serve. It is just a myth to get you to do the work.

Now let me get this straight, if you lived in Portland where they get 40+ inches of rain a year you would rather get out and stand in the rain to pump your own gas, in good clothes, than take your key out of the ignition. BS! You want you wife to do the same? I sure don�t want my wife to have to get out and stand in rain or snow to pump her gas. I am betting that if you were to live in a non self serve state you could figure out the key thing pretty quick. Something difficult as a spare key perhaps?
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Sir, it has nothing to do with putting folks out of work.

As a lady, I'm not necessarily saying that I want to pump it myself, but I would prefer my man who I'm driving with, to do it , rather than someone who I don't know.

I have no problem with stations offering full-service, I think its great for most people, but (IMHO) drivers should have the OPTION of doing it themselves.
I used to see lots of stations that had two lanes..'full service' and 'self service' <shrugs> What was wrong with that set-up?

Oh, and yeah I do like to do my own work. Infact I'm in the middle of restoring a couple vintage cars right now.... And we do everything ourselves, from paint to pistons. (Only natural that someone like that would prefer to fill their own fuel too)

I'm curious how that law cam about anyway? Can anyone explain it to me?

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SanFagCity????

kutenay, shame on you! It is SanFag SICKO, get it right!

I have been banning myself from the leftwing homo-infested state of Kalifornia for 13 years and I see ZERO reason to ever go there again.

I have no problem pumping gas for my fife whenever we travel out of state. I would never expect her to do it. If we lose the full service law here my wife will not have to pump her gas, I will have to make sure I keep her tank full. Remember, I am the guy who always opens doors for his wife, always walks on the outside of a sidewalk and never eats until she is seated and ready to eat, if she leaves the table for any reason I stop eating and lay my silver down until she is seated and ready to eat again. This boy�s momma raised him right. That said, I will relate some problems about self service. I am somewhat disabled. I have good days and I have bad. My lower back was damaged and there is no hope for surgery or any medical help. I have had to get out of my car, hobble across an icy drive with my cane to pay for my gas, hobble back to my car and pump the gas, make the trip back inside for my change then go back to the car all the while in teeth gritting pain. In that time, and I am talking about many incidents here, no one has offered to help, not even once. A friend in a wheel chair, a vet with a broken back has it even worse as he has to transfer into his wheelchair and make the same trips.

I have not seen the two land service/self service thing in years.

I have my hobbies too. I can appreciate someone who restores old cars. The difference is you are not forced to rebuild old cars. In most states I have traveled in the last sever years you are forced to pump your own.

Why a no self service law? One reason is that Gasoline is a hazardous material, the fumes and the liquid are dangerous and believe or not the stuff is flammable.

Every few years a group will attempt to force Oregon go self service and so far we have been able to defeat it. Take a trip and try it, bet you will actually enjoy having an attendant pump your gas, maybe wash your windshield and take your money. Most of the time they will even smile. Oh yes, and no one will insult you by asking you to pay first. To me when someone tells me I must pay first that is the same as calling me a thief. When was the last time you walked into a grocery, a dress shop or a shoe store and the told you that you had to put money up front before you could shop.

And and a foot note, why do out of state people tell us we should change?

We were talking about san francisco, a place I wont frequent, nor recommend anyone elso frequent. But let's not start this into a pissing contest. I'm not much impressed with a whole bunch of states in the US if you fellars care to go there with this. Dont panic, there are some of us here that will fill the air with lead if any of these liberal low lifes ever send someone our way looking to collect our weapons. Some of you boys havent figured out a whole bunch of us are rednecks here. Let me know when your Agricultural state farm production surpasses CA. Let me give you a hint, Fresno Co alone were it a state, is the largest Agricultural producing area in the United States. Now if you cant figure, I wll for you, farmers are rednecks, and I come from a farming background. Dont get your panties in a wad in Virginia..........

No problems on this end, but the governance and majority in the PRK sucks azz...

That fact remains undisputed.

There might be some good folks in the PRK, but y'all are WAY outnumbered and gettin' moreso each day.

You'd be welcome elsewhere, if'n you'd vote with your feet.

I haven't read all the posts, so I might be re-stating what someone else has mentioned previously.

This law will never be enforced. The Mayor of SF himself stated on Wednesday that State and Federal law supercedes the SF law, and that (should it be passed) it will be rescinded on appeal. Of course he did go on to say that he felt it important that SF go on record as taking a moral stand against handguns. Or words to that effect.

It's a big ole crock of happy horse [bleep], but at least it will have no effect on the citizens of SF.

Oh yeah, this is the second handgun initiative passed in SF. The first one was thrown out on appeal...

Regards,
Scott

Red,
you should check www.packing.org to see where your ccw is valid.
tom

Look at a map of CA, from SF south to Santa Cruz, east to Berkley is a mecca of liberal idiots, the rest of the state is a different world.

It will be intresting to see where the crime rate in SF goes from here.

I'll vouch for you AggieDog, a year ago spring we took the kids on the amusement park jaunt in SoCal, it was fun and all, but then we drove up the coast to Monterey Bay etc. but when the trip really became good was when we cut over and hit the Sequoia Nat'l Forest and cut back through the state and stayed in Fresno, Oakdale and the like, seemed like real people to me, went to a very good sporting goods place in one of those towns and they had a fair selection of rifles and got to talk hunting abit to a couple of guys working there. There's good folks in CA, just doesn't seem like very many are in office or in the cities which would make it a lot like other states. JME there, but I'll tell you this I'll bet in the early 1900's it was Paradise.

1akhunter-

watch out. You may be getting the free taxes and the free head, but it may be from a dude. YMMV...........

Jesse Jaymes, I need to PM you my addy, I just hurled on my keyboard at 4:50 a.m. so I figure you owe me a new one!

Unfortunately it's a laptop, "but it may be from a dude" that would have hurt bad enough later in the day.

Tom,
Thanks for the site
Red

My question is: "Why isn't the NRA challenging this "law" as being a direct violation of the 2d Amendment Right To Keep And Bear Arms?!?!?!??!"

SG, it sounds like good sense and tactics to begin an action at the first level when possible. A victory at the state level would have the potential effect of strengthening the state level gun rights. Just my perspective.