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I think you'll get a different answer from everyone. To me, 300 yds is long range... and I won't take a shot longer than that, only because my eyes are not what they used to be, even with modern optics. 25 yrs ago, that was closer to 400 yds. I'm a hunter, not really much of a "marksman". I shoot well enough to make good clean kills most of the time. I'm not out to hit a quarter off a fence post at 1,000 yds, not that their is anything wrong with that so no offense to those who can (envy). So to me, 300 yds is "long range" as in long range= the limit of my effective shooting limits. Many on here, who can shoot the eye out of a crow at half a mile with a modern rifle and optics, will scoff at that, but I'm ok with that. Doesn't keep me from punching tags very often.
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Long range is the distance whereby you're NEVER sure of where the first shot is gonna hit!!
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If it's beyond my comfort zone, it's long.
On paper, I take the shot.
On game, in wind... If I have to think about it, I need to get closer.
If I get busted while moving up, that's hunting. I think colodog has given the best answer to the OP question. My comfort zone is 0-400 yds. My longest shot & kill is 389 yds. lasered. No ??, no qualms, no hesitation. OTOH more than once, deer considerably closer than 400 yds offered no clear, conscionable shot and I HAD to get closer. As stated PAPER (targets) is one thing, animals are another.
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On the waning hrs of his hunt a 9'er showed up and he missed it cleanly ay 80 yds. ![[Linked Image]](http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/waterratpics/DSCN0068.jpg) #1 TOOL! I deal with guys like this all summer too. I bet that TRG has less than 100 rounds through it. Long range to me depends on the rifle. My "long range" steel plates are at 850, 1000, and 1150 yards and are MOA size.
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Sometimes guiding has it's moments,,This fellow insisted that nothing less than a 10'brown bear would do! He claimed his Lapua's sweet spot was from 380yds to 800yds!! On the waning hrs of his hunt a 9'er showed up and he missed it cleanly ay 80 yds. More dollars than sense...
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In Montana 100 yards is close range.
In Washington state, 100 yards is long range.
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I have learned that most wood hunters that don't regularly shoo at 300 plus yards are surprised at the results when they first try 300-500 yard shots, and especially how the rifles recoil changes the impact
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Depends on what I'm shooting, in terms of firearm, load and target.
200 yards is long range for my iron-sighted .44 Mag carbine unless the target is really big. 300 with my scoped leverguns, more because of load limitations than accuracy as I can hit pretty consistently with them at 500. Clay pigeons at 600 is long range even with my most accurate bolt rifles, although I get enough hits to be addicted to trying.
Game I'm more conservative on. Longest to date is 350 yards but back then I was only practicing at 200 with any frequency, 300 rarely and 400 less than that. Now I practice regularly at 500 and 600 and would consider those 'long' if game was in the sights while 350 would pretty much be a given unless the wind was howling crosswise.
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In Montana 100 yards is close range.
In Washington state, 100 yards is long range. Maybe you should look on the east side of Washington before making such a airhead statement. Have you ever been out of your back yard?
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I've been hunting and range shooting for 40 years and for me anything over 200 yards with a hunting rifle is long range.
I'm slowly getting into longer yardages but I find there is a whole new standard of equipment and practise required to be profficient in the field.
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In Montana 100 yards is close range.
In Washington state, 100 yards is long range. Maybe you should look on the east side of Washington before making such a airhead statement. Have you ever been out of your back yard? I am going to guess you are not a highly paid consultant. [I can see all the way over the mountains by reading the mannerisms of your post.]
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I think past the five is when things get interesting, and you need to truly look at BC and what not to be consistent.
Travis IMHO long range starts at 600 yards
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My defination is any range that hitting becomes iffy,it may be 200 yds or 500 yds depending on the circumstances. The weather,wind,daylight,groundcover, and angle all play a major factor. Personally I think a sheep at 300yds would be a fine shot and lesser as the range increases.I seen perfect hits on brown bears at 250yds and weather (wind) induced near misses at 100yds. This bear was killed (1 shot) at 269 yds! ![[Linked Image]](http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q4/waterratpics/DSCN0339.jpg) A short range shot opportunity may be difficult due to circumstances, difficulty doesn't define long range IMHO
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In Montana 100 yards is close range.
In Washington state, 100 yards is long range. Maybe you should look on the east side of Washington before making such a airhead statement. Have you ever been out of your back yard? I am going to guess you are not a highly paid consultant. [I can see all the way over the mountains by reading the mannerisms of your post.] By reading your profile I understand what your logic is. Its us surveyors that fix all the problems that engineers create.
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