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I am looking for a scope recommendation for New Ultra Light Arms 300 win that I recently ordered. Setting up this rifle for western / Alaska hunts. Max range is around 400 yards.

Here are some of the scopes that I have been looking at. Trying to find the best fit for this rifle and price is not the deciding factor. With that being said, I am not looking to over pay just to get a name. The longer the eye relief the better.

Swarovski Z3 3-9x36
Swarovski Z3 3-10x42
Zeiss Conquest 3-9x40
Zeiss Conquest 3.5-10x44
Leupold vx3 3.5-10x40 (thoughts on CDS?)
Leupold vx3 2.5-8x36
Minox?
Leica ER?

Swaro's have great glass but only 3.5" er. Zeiss appears to be the best value just a little on the heavy side. I have used Leupold scopes for years without complaint and are my standard for comparisons.

Looking to see what nula owners have put on their rifles and would recommend.

I have become a Kahles fan. They make a 3-9x42 that went on my CLR/NULA hybrid.

I have peddled Swarovski, Zeiss and Schmidt & Bender in favor of Kahles.

Welcome to the 'Fire, Ejo.

The Kahles are indeed very fine scopes, and would be light and trim and optically superb. They have also been very tough in my experience with them.

I don't have any NULA's but do have a 300 WSM Montana which I shot with a 3-9x42 Kahles scope for a good while.

I found that, while eye relief was OK for me, I always paid attention to it because I would have liked a little more.

I also was hesitant to hand it to someone to shoot, especially after my 7-08 Montana with the same model 3-9x42 Kahles scoped a buddy of mine on a prone shot on a whitetail. While we chuckled about it as he was wiping blood away, I wouldn't want to do that to just anyone...grin.

While I think the Kahles glass is a little better, and I really like the looks/balance of the 3-9x42 on a lightweight rig, I think I'd go Leupold 3.5-10x40 VX3 for good fit, good optics, good looks, good glass, good reliability/warranty (if recoil on that rig eats it) and good eye relief/eyebox on such a fine lightweight rifle.

DJ

I have the same gun it is scoped with a Leupold VX3 3.5X10X40 CDS in Talley steel Mounts works great ! However the Kahles would be nice !

Like some of the others I welcome you to the campfire. I have a five pound Weatherby so maybe that qualifies as a weight qualification. With a Swarovski z5 5-25X52 mine weighs 6 1/4 pounds.



Since eye relief is a big deal and you will go out to 400 yards, I recommend a 2 1/2-16X Bushnell 6500. They have 4" and in my side by side comparison show barely more detail than the scopes you mentioned. You can get either a 42mm or a 50mm objectve.

Also they offer something the other brands don't. You have up to a full year to return it for a full refund if you still have the receipt. I know the refund works empirically and apriorily.

Scoped my NULA 270 Bee with a VX3 3.5-10x40 and lovin' it. I wouldn't mind having a M1 elevation turret put on it one day......but not a fan of the CDS.

Talley Ltwt mounts, of course.

If I was setting up a NULA in 300 Winnie, and plan on the distant shooting you are planing. I would get some serious look at a Swarovski Z6 1.7 to 10 x 42 mm with there BT turret. They have a need app for setting one up, I been playing with it on my iPhone. Very simple. Or they will make one up for you, using the load numbers you provide.

6x36 Leo w/dotz

Dober

Dober! We gotta chat one of these years dude!

Conquest 3-9x40 or VX3 3.5-10x40 w/CDS. Either gets you past legal shooting. I really like the CDS so far.

Would you recommend the CDS for 400 yards and under?

This will be my first light rifle, what is a resonable weight to keep the scope under?

thanks for the comments so far.

Better to have a turret to spin and not need it, than to need it and not have it.

Under 400 with a 300 Win (especially with the right bullet), you may not really need it all that much, but things change and the CDS/M1 elevation sure adds lots of versatility for longer range shooting.

CDS is nearly as low profile as a standard turret if keeping things trim is important to you.

About the only disadvantage to it would be if your rifle is in and out of a scabbard a bunch or something where you need a turret cover, but it has always been real simple to glance at a turret and make sure it is set at zero for me.

DJ

I put a Swarovoski 3X10 AV on mine and it promptly ate it in 50 rounds or so. Replaced it with a 3.5X10 leupie and it stayed on there several hundred rounds w/o incident till I rebarreled it to .257 ROY. Scope is still going strong on another .300 Winny.

Lefty C

DJ, don't forget the CDS has a zero stop. You can't screw it up.

Got that right...

Dober

How quickly do you want this rifle? If in no hurry, I'll put it on the wish list at my buddy's shop and one will turn up.

I have an FX-3 6x42 with LR reticle on my T3 Super Light (~6lb bare rifle in 300 Win Mag).

The 6x42 has the most eye relief I could find at 4.4" I really like this scope, and I owned a 2-7x Kahles in the recent past. Not saying the Leup is equal to the CL, but I really like both scopes and I've never been a big fan of Leupolds.

Before getting the 6x42, I had a 2-7x Viper with holdover reticle and it was dead nuts accurate at 400 yards with 200 yard zero (200gr NAB handload at 2900 fps). The eye relief on the Viper is listed at 4" - 3.7". I was always really careful shooting with this scope on 7x, but it kissed my brow a couple times. Just enough to feel it, but not draw blood or leave a mark!

I decided to retire the Viper while I was ahead! A 7-lb all-up rifle in 300 Win comes back pretty dang far and fast.

I ordered the rifle from NULA last December so I should be getting a call pretty soon. I needed a left hand and 14.25 lop so I was having a hard time finding a used one. Thanks for the offer

I was in Bass Pro today looking at the scopes. Its interesting that no one is sugesting the Swaro z3, why not? They seem very clear and compact. Eye relief is deffiently less than the leupold on low power but at 10x the vx3 seems about the same. Zeiss conquest is a very nice scope but I think I can rule it out because of the added weight.

Eye relief is certainly important with your rifle. That ultra-light rifle in .300 Win. is gonna' give you a pretty fast jolt.

Having said that, Melvins stock design will keep the recoil coming straight back to reduce FELT recoil, and he uses a VERY firm recoil pad to minimize how much the rifle recoils back towards your eye.

I asked him the first time we spoke if he used Pachmyer Decelerator pads on his rifle. He said, "Those squishy rubber pads are just the ticket for a scope cut over the eye".