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Re: Looking like a brokered GOP convention HugAJackass #6445717 04/26/12
Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 132,038 Likes: 64 USA T The_Real_Hawkeye Campfire Sage
The_Real_Hawkeye Campfire Sage T Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 132,038 Likes: 64 USA	Originally Posted by HugAJackass If by one or two, you mean dozens, then yeah, I guess you're correct.... No. In reviewing those presented by the Campfire's leftists, I didn't find that to be the case. Only one or two could, removed from context, be convincingly twisted.

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Re: Looking like a brokered GOP convention derby_dude #6445739 04/26/12
Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 86,355 Likes: 35 In the shadow of the Kenai Mtn... ironbender Campfire Oracle
ironbender Campfire Oracle Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 86,355 Likes: 35 In the shadow of the Kenai Mtn...	Originally Posted by derby_dude Answer the question guys, why do you hate freedom and liberty? That's silly. It's like asking you if you have stopped beating your wife? If you take the time it takes, it takes less time. --Pat Parelli American by birth; Alaskan by choice. --ironbender

Re: Looking like a brokered GOP convention HugAJackass #6445741 04/26/12
Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 15,864 AL, USA HugAJackass Campfire Ranger
HugAJackass Campfire Ranger Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 15,864 AL, USA	Quick survey here, as this may require a separate thread, and I need to know who would be interested in discussing the finer points of it. There are four groups that exist on the right. RINO's: who are somewhat fiscal conservative but are very much big government minded. Conservatives: Constitutionalists Libertarians: Confederates Anarchist: Anti-Government but would accept the Confederation concept. The topic: Libertarians and Anarchist join behind their poster boy Ron Paul to attempt to redefine Constitutionalism and re-institute the Articles of Confederation even though anywhere in History a Confederacy has been tried, they've failed. Compare and Contrast the pro's and con's of a Confederacy form of Government vs. a Constitutional Republic. Does this belong in this thread, as RP is the poster boy for all of this, or should I make a new one? "Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." - John Adams Turdlike, by default.

Re: Looking like a brokered GOP convention HugAJackass #6445761 04/26/12
Joined: May 2003 Posts: 48,411 New Orleans Steve_NO Campfire 'Bwana
Steve_NO Campfire 'Bwana Joined: May 2003 Posts: 48,411 New Orleans	Originally Posted by HugAJackass Compare and Contrast the pro's and con's of a Confederacy form of Government vs. a Constitutional Republic. BTDT....see Federalist papers. See further, founding fathers who tried the experiment and quickly abandoned it. How many times do you have to pee on the electric fence? Proudly representing oil companies, defense contractors, and firearms manufacturers since 1980. Because merchants of death need lawyers, too.

Re: Looking like a brokered GOP convention HugAJackass #6445770 04/26/12
Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 26,389 Likes: 6 Minnysoda G Ghostinthemachine Campfire Ranger
Ghostinthemachine Campfire Ranger G Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 26,389 Likes: 6 Minnysoda	Quote RINO's: who are somewhat fiscal conservative... You must be smokin' some good schit.

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Re: Looking like a brokered GOP convention HugAJackass #6445772 04/26/12
Joined: May 2007 Posts: 13,957 Spring Hill, FL F Foxbat Campfire Outfitter
Foxbat Campfire Outfitter F Joined: May 2007 Posts: 13,957 Spring Hill, FL	Originally Posted by HugAJackass Originally Posted by derby_dude Nope. It's because it's impossible to counter the power of stupid people in large groups. Also I don't care anymore. Let the nation destroy itself, I just don't care anymore. I've lived a long and fruitful life and I don't have any children so I just don't care anymore. The nation and it's people can go straight to Hell and it is. I just don't care anymore. Course Derby didn't care anymore in 2008, either, when he helped elect Obama and if we went back to 2004, we'd probably find the same whining from this crew. Paul is just the latest flavor for these guys. They were all Perot supporters in 1992 and 1996 as well. If we could talk with their parents, we'd probably find out they were the kids that kept trying to stick the fork in the outlet and wet the bed until they were 9.

Re: Looking like a brokered GOP convention Ghostinthemachine #6445774 04/26/12
Joined: May 2007 Posts: 13,957 Spring Hill, FL F Foxbat Campfire Outfitter
Foxbat Campfire Outfitter F Joined: May 2007 Posts: 13,957 Spring Hill, FL	Originally Posted by Ghostinthemachine Quote RINO's: who are somewhat fiscal conservative... You must be smokin' some good schit. Relatively speaking, Obama has made Bush 43 look like Calvin Coolidge.

Re: Looking like a brokered GOP convention Ghostinthemachine #6445778 04/26/12
Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 15,864 AL, USA HugAJackass Campfire Ranger
HugAJackass Campfire Ranger Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 15,864 AL, USA	Originally Posted by Ghostinthemachine Quote RINO's: who are somewhat fiscal conservative... You must be smokin' some good schit. emphasis was on the word "somewhat" as compared to true Liberals. For example, the RINO's still voted against Obamacare... "Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." - John Adams Turdlike, by default.

Re: Looking like a brokered GOP convention Steve_NO #6445784 04/26/12
Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 15,864 AL, USA HugAJackass Campfire Ranger
HugAJackass Campfire Ranger Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 15,864 AL, USA	Originally Posted by Steve_NO Originally Posted by HugAJackass Compare and Contrast the pro's and con's of a Confederacy form of Government vs. a Constitutional Republic. BTDT....see Federalist papers. See further, founding fathers who tried the experiment and quickly abandoned it. How many times do you have to pee on the electric fence? That's what I thought too. The Paulista's see themselves more as the Anti-federalist, and as such they are in fact NOT constitutionalists. Yet, they seek to claim that they are the true conservatives, which is just laughable. If anyone is the definition of Neocon, it would be Paulbots. "Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." - John Adams Turdlike, by default.

Re: Looking like a brokered GOP convention HugAJackass #6445790 04/26/12
Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 26,389 Likes: 6 Minnysoda G Ghostinthemachine Campfire Ranger
Ghostinthemachine Campfire Ranger G Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 26,389 Likes: 6 Minnysoda	Originally Posted by HugAJackass Originally Posted by Ghostinthemachine Quote RINO's: who are somewhat fiscal conservative... You must be smokin' some good schit. emphasis was on the word "somewhat" as compared to true Liberals. For example, the RINO's still voted against Obamacare... Bush and McInsane were both flaming liberals in regard to fiscal responsibilty. Both are warmongering sumbitches too.

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Re: Looking like a brokered GOP convention DELGUE #6445794 04/26/12
Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 54,284 Parts unknown... EthanEdwards Campfire Kahuna
EthanEdwards Campfire Kahuna Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 54,284 Parts unknown...	Originally Posted by DELGUE There will be no brokered convention. Romney will have the delegates. What universe are you guys living in? Really, guys? Are you really that far out of touch with reality that you think a man who has not won a single, not FRIGGIN ONE, primary has a snowball's chance in hell??? In tough economic times he is doing a disservice to people by still taking their money solely for his ego and personal gain when he has absolutely ZERO chance of winning. That bespeaks of a man who doesn't give a damn about his supporters, but only cares about himself. He is an egomaniac, pure and simple. The American people do not want him as their leader..that's why he didn't win a single primary or caucus. I thought the primary season had brought y'all back to reality, but apparently it just made you go dormant. Your choices will be Obama or Romney or nothing. You choose. The [bleep] are you talking to me for you moron dickweasel? Last edited by EthanEdwards; 04/26/12.

Re: Looking like a brokered GOP convention HugAJackass #6445801 04/26/12
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 42,662 Likes: 12 Orange Park, Florida jorgeI Campfire 'Bwana
jorgeI Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 42,662 Likes: 12 Orange Park, Florida	Originally Posted by HugAJackass Originally Posted by Steve_NO Originally Posted by HugAJackass Compare and Contrast the pro's and con's of a Confederacy form of Government vs. a Constitutional Republic. BTDT....see Federalist papers. See further, founding fathers who tried the experiment and quickly abandoned it. How many times do you have to pee on the electric fence? That's what I thought too. The Paulista's see themselves more as the Anti-federalist, and as such they are in fact NOT constitutionalists. Yet, they seek to claim that they are the true conservatives, which is just laughable. If anyone is the definition of Neocon, it would be Paulbots. Spot on and the "Redirect" post was also right on the money. And of course the one that ties them to the leftists, "warmongering." When all is said and done they cannot be defined by one word but rather a compilation of a few like anarcho-isolationist-conspiracy----KOOKS. A good principle to guide me through life: “This is all I have come to expect, standard lackluster performance. Trust nothing, believe no one and realize it will only get worse…”

Re: Looking like a brokered GOP convention EthanEdwards #6445810 04/26/12
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 42,662 Likes: 12 Orange Park, Florida jorgeI Campfire 'Bwana
jorgeI Campfire 'Bwana Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 42,662 Likes: 12 Orange Park, Florida	Mark I don't think that was directed at you but at a post previous to yours. A good principle to guide me through life: “This is all I have come to expect, standard lackluster performance. Trust nothing, believe no one and realize it will only get worse…”

Re: Looking like a brokered GOP convention dave7mm #6445811 04/26/12
Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 54,284 Parts unknown... EthanEdwards Campfire Kahuna
EthanEdwards Campfire Kahuna Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 54,284 Parts unknown...	Originally Posted by dave7mm When I think of paultards. dave I didn't say I thought that the convention will be brokered because it won't be. I liked/like Ron Paul, but he isn't going to be the Republican nominee and I could have said that a couple of months back. Some of us fought the good fight and I have no illusions that Romney will be anything but a RINO, however, Obama must be kept from getting a second term. His current term is nothing less than a disgrace and another will spin us into a Banana Republic at best. As to your pic, that's the difference between me and you. I simply don't think of you.

Re: Looking like a brokered GOP convention Ghostinthemachine #6445816 04/26/12
Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 15,864 AL, USA HugAJackass Campfire Ranger
HugAJackass Campfire Ranger Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 15,864 AL, USA	Originally Posted by Ghostinthemachine Bush and McInsane were both flaming liberals in regard to fiscal responsibilty. Both are warmongering sumbitches too. So, you truly believe that they would have signed the healthcare bill? Interesting.... "Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." - John Adams Turdlike, by default.

Re: Looking like a brokered GOP convention jorgeI #6445823 04/26/12
Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 54,284 Parts unknown... EthanEdwards Campfire Kahuna
EthanEdwards Campfire Kahuna Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 54,284 Parts unknown...	Originally Posted by jorgeI Mark I don't think that was directed at you but at a post previous to yours. So noted and edited.

Re: Looking like a brokered GOP convention jorgeI #6445829 04/26/12
Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 15,864 AL, USA HugAJackass Campfire Ranger
HugAJackass Campfire Ranger Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 15,864 AL, USA	Originally Posted by jorgeI When all is said and done they cannot be defined by one word but rather a compilation of a few like anarcho-isolationist-conspiracy----KOOKS. Oh, I think one word is doable... aniscons: pronounced anus-cons. "Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." - John Adams Turdlike, by default.

Re: Looking like a brokered GOP convention EthanEdwards #6445837 04/26/12
Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 86,355 Likes: 35 In the shadow of the Kenai Mtn... ironbender Campfire Oracle
ironbender Campfire Oracle Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 86,355 Likes: 35 In the shadow of the Kenai Mtn...	Originally Posted by EthanEdwards I didn't say I thought that the convention will be brokered because it won't be. I liked/like Ron Paul, but he isn't going to be the Republican nominee and I could have said that a couple of months back. Some of us fought the good fight and I have no illusions that Romney will be anything but a RINO, however, Obama must be kept from getting a second term. His current term is nothing less than a disgrace and another will spin us into a Banana Republic at best. Exactly! If you take the time it takes, it takes less time. --Pat Parelli American by birth; Alaskan by choice. --ironbender

Re: Looking like a brokered GOP convention ironbender #6445853 04/26/12
Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 54,284 Parts unknown... EthanEdwards Campfire Kahuna
EthanEdwards Campfire Kahuna Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 54,284 Parts unknown...	Originally Posted by ironbender Originally Posted by EthanEdwards I didn't say I thought that the convention will be brokered because it won't be. I liked/like Ron Paul, but he isn't going to be the Republican nominee and I could have said that a couple of months back. Some of us fought the good fight and I have no illusions that Romney will be anything but a RINO, however, Obama must be kept from getting a second term. His current term is nothing less than a disgrace and another will spin us into a Banana Republic at best. Exactly! I've actually only read a few pages of this epic but I'm getting off of it now...hopefully, before I get pisssed. I don't understand the hostility towards the Paul supporters exhibited here. Y'all won. Personally, I'm a better winner than that. YMMV. Over and out. Edited to say I'm not talking about Ironbender. Last edited by EthanEdwards; 04/26/12.

Re: Looking like a brokered GOP convention EthanEdwards #6445870 04/26/12
Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 15,864 AL, USA HugAJackass Campfire Ranger
HugAJackass Campfire Ranger Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 15,864 AL, USA	Originally Posted by EthanEdwards Originally Posted by ironbender Originally Posted by EthanEdwards I didn't say I thought that the convention will be brokered because it won't be. I liked/like Ron Paul, but he isn't going to be the Republican nominee and I could have said that a couple of months back. Some of us fought the good fight and I have no illusions that Romney will be anything but a RINO, however, Obama must be kept from getting a second term. His current term is nothing less than a disgrace and another will spin us into a Banana Republic at best. Exactly! I've actually only read a few pages of this epic but I'm getting off of it now...hopefully, before I get pisssed. I don't understand the hostility towards the Paul supporters exhibited here. Y'all won. Personally, I'm a better winner than that. YMMV. Over and out. Edited to say I'm not talking about Ironbender. I'd flat out say that you're the smartest and most reasonable of the whole lot. Reality is not lost on you, and a condescending attitude has not been your mantra. Though we often disagree, I have nothing but respect for you. "Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." - John Adams Turdlike, by default.

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