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Seriously, does it really matter?


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Come on bro you have to admit that all the new names everytime they make some minor change is knida funny. If not I'll help you look for your sense of humor.

FWIW, I was very seriously considering a new VX-6 for my 300 WM based in part on your reports. I'm probably going to go the 6500 route just because of the Rainguard HD though and slightly more ER.

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Originally Posted by oregontripper
Ultra-wave Blackened Reticle Deposition...



Pretty close.

How about Zombie hardened Ultra-wave Blackened Reticle Deposition...

Gotta get the word "hard" in there....


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Originally Posted by RDFinn
Come on bro you have to admit that all the new names everytime they make some minor change is knida funny. If not I'll help you look for your sense of humor.

FWIW, I was very seriously considering a new VX-6 for my 300 WM based in part on your reports. I'm probably going to go the 6500 route just because of the Rainguard HD though and slightly more ER.



I wasn't referring to the marketing hype type posts. I think they're funny too. I was referring to the etched vs wire question. I could really care less which one it is myself.

FYI, since the mexicans are "out babying" us white boys at an alarming rate, and they make up more of the US population nowadays than ever, I vote for alambre del negro....


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Originally Posted by JGRaider
Seriously, does it really matter?

Yah, thinking so myself. The Firedot Duplex looks great and it's one of the newest Pulsed Neutrino Abrasion Etched Reticles available... wink


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I need to make a correction.

The turret on my 3-10x42 AV has 15 MOA/rev, not the 14 I reported. blush


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No, RD. Leupold has used and still uses etched reticles wherever they require the precise placement of thing like Mil-Dots for ranging/holdover/hold off type reticles. They are used in the Varmit Hunter Reticle for instance.
I think I saw something to the effect that all the reticles used in the VX-6 are etched. But I'm sure about that.
Leupold found that their etched designs were just as strong as their older wire designs. They went to the electroform design because it tested stronger still. Should save them money in the long run and make for happier customers. E

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Only telling what Leupold said that their strongest design is the etched they use in their M4 series. Maybe you should call them and tell them they're wrong.

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I'm using a 6X36 std. duplex etched (Custom Shop ordered) and a 6X36 electroformed std. duplex and I can tell you with "first hand" experience the etched is bolder and sharper, doesn't turn bronze in non perfect lighting conditions and goes much deeper into late shooting hours. By saying much deeper in late shooting hours I'm talking about Yotes with lights. Just spent some time in Texas shooting late evening pigs and probably sold some more etched reticles for Leupold as the boys were very impressed with the first hand experience. Could have sold the scope on the spot for a couple Benjamins more than I bought it for!!!

Dig deep into the tech department, have a couple discussions with the Leupold folks on etched reticles and then ask the folks what their shooting!!!


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RD, what you missed was that some of their toughest scopes, as far as impact resisitance goes, are some of their Mk.4 scopes, not their so called M4 scopes. Some of which are tested at 1500 g's, 5000 times. This is done to insure that those scopes suffer no broken parts, including reticles. They use electroform reticles in those scopes which can use them because they hold up even better. The Mk.4 scopes can't use the electroform designs because they can't precisely place things like Mil-dots, and the hash marks of the TMT designs with the electroform process.
And that's the difference as they explained it to me. E

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Funny nobody else that understands low light testing has found that to be true. And since when is low light shooting the same as shooting coyotes with lights. E

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Hey Errorcus...Nobody is a pretty broad word!!!

Yotes with lights, piggy's, not so much...

Mark 4 Std. Duplex is etched too!

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Any kind of night hunting with a loopie is like taking a knife to a gun fight.
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Originally Posted by dave7mm
Any kind of night hunting with a loopie is like taking a knife to a gun fight.
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Dave,

Though your point is valid, taking a knife to a gunfight is OK if it happens at night (gunfight) and the guns happen to be loopie scoped...

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You guys kill me.....my neighbor and I have shot hundreds of pigs, bobcats, foxes and 'yotes at night with a VXII, VX3, FX3, Conquest, and Elite. Good try though.


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Thanks Tripper. I'm going to get a 2-12 before the fall.

Done made me mind up.

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I want one!

Just don't have a landing place for it. What are you putting it on, JM?


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Originally Posted by JohnMoses
Thanks Tripper. I'm going to get a 2-12 before the fall.
Done made me mind up.

Good - I'm happy to convolute an optics topic anytime wink

Hoping for a VX-R myself, yet somehow I've ended up ordering a couple Vortex Vipers!


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oregontripper,

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oping for a VX-R myself, yet somehow I've ended up ordering a couple Vortex Vipers!


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Jeff, sticking it on a PAC nor rebarrelled A-Bolt in .257 Roy.

Dave, I've shot well over 100 pigs at night out of farm fields. A large percentage of them were sent to the here after using Leupold Vari-X and VX II's in 3-9.

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